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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 8 vs Fritz 7 --2ea 1.4G/auto232 machines @ G/60'

Author: Jeroen van Dorp

Date: 15:41:27 05/07/02

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>Yes, and a very poor start for Hiarcs 8.

Exactly, "start".
We sometimes make fun at each other here over the by now void statement "more
games are needed".
However it seems that people still don't realise everything about tournament
development with chess engines.

I recall playing an engine match just recently between Gandalf 5.0 and Gandalf
4.32. After six games Gandalf 4.32 led by a margin of 5 games. After 50 games
Gandalf 4.32 and 5.0 were on par, Gandalf winning with one point or so..

Recently I played 300 3,0 games with these contestants. You can see Fritz
performs well against Hiarcs. After 150 games Hiarcs was in the lead. After 300
games Fritz topped the list. You can see Hiarcs performs well against Junior and
Shredder, a current world champion.

It seems Hiarcs is a potent chap. It seems the last release of Fritz 7 is also a
potent chap. Good.

Now what are we going to expect? If a new engine hits the market, should it be
automatically number one and very much stronger than everything else?
I think number two or three is very strong as well.
And more important, what does Hiarcs "understand" about chess? In some
situations Hiarcs could make the difference. It seems a lot of people use their
engine for analysis. They might have made a very good decision.

J.



Program                          Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws

1 Fritz 7                        : 2455   49  51   150    60.3 %   2382   24.7 %
2 Hiarcs 8                       : 2424   53  50   150    54.7 %   2392   20.0 %
3 Junior 7                       : 2363   49  51   150    43.0 %   2412   24.7 %
4 Shredder Paderborn             : 2358   49  51   150    42.0 %   2414   25.3 %

********

(1) Fritz 7                   : 150 (+ 72,= 37,- 41), 60.3 %

Shredder Paderborn            :  50 (+ 26,= 13,- 11), 65.0 %
Hiarcs 8                      :  50 (+ 24,= 11,- 15), 59.0 %
Junior 7                      :  50 (+ 22,= 13,- 15), 57.0 %


(2) Hiarcs 8                  : 150 (+ 67,= 30,- 53), 54.7 %

Fritz 7                       :  50 (+ 15,= 11,- 24), 41.0 %
Shredder Paderborn            :  50 (+ 25,= 10,- 15), 60.0 %
Junior 7                      :  50 (+ 27,=  9,- 14), 63.0 %



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