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Subject: Re: So um, who here works for Intel?

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 21:35:10 05/08/02

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On May 08, 2002 at 03:19:50, Slater Wold wrote:

any big company in USA has a dude lurking around here.
computerchess is in specint2000 remember?

apart from that many people are interested in computerchess.

big chance about 10 people check regurarly here who work for m$,
about 3 i could mention from head who might work for intel. And
another one if i remember well AMD and the list goes on.

Whatever happens, support from intel is great compared to
AMD for example. Yes AMD is the superb processor, no doubt.
Even a good 'cheating' compiler (cheating in the sense that
it isn't trying any trivial thing to get fast on the AMD K7
processor) which cheats by about 10%.

Despite that, they still get kicked butt by AMD processors.

If you however consider the good support from their helpdesk,
the fact that they can press a 2.53Ghz sticker onto the new
northwood whereas AMD only can stick a 1.73Ghz sticker on the
2100MP (which somehow nowhere can be bought yet in europe like
the 2.53 northwood can't get bought), the fact they have
their own compiler, then you know they last forever.

AMD still has to develop their own compiler, or they will
go run behind soon.

any P4 news doesn't interest me much till they fixed the 8KB L1
cache (the reason why the processor sucks is also the reason
it can get clocked so high i guess, well that's the opinion
of a layman).

real interesting though is the mckinley. Many people at intel and other
big companies speak about it. So far not a single testresult reached
me from it. DIEP in this respect isn't even most important. I already
know pretty well how diep is going to do on it when i know the speed
of crafty on it at a specint test.

AMD will get nowhere at 64 bits world till they have their own compiler.

>I got an e-mail tonite.  From Intel.  That's a first........
>
>Perhaps there are eyes on us everywhere!
>
>It was from a "Systems Engineer", telling me how to setup a 2.53Ghz machine
>*correctly* and that I should have no problems "..beating any AMD CPU on the
>market, overclocked or not, running any "optimized" program.."
>
>I checked the e-mail, it's valid.  He stated that he would "..appreciate my
>cooperation in keeping his name, and this e-mail, as quiet as possbible.."
>Well, I guess this is as quiet as I can keep it.  ;)
>
>Aaron, he told me they were hitting 300+ fps with the setup he described to me
>in the e-mail, using a GeForce3 Ti500.  He told me using a GeForce4 Ti4600 or
>the Quatro4 would probably net gains near 30+ fps.  You getting anywhere near
>this number?
>
>He also told me that P4's have always been geared towards multimedia.  And that
>it didn't hurt his feelings that AMDs were beating the P4s in "chess
>applications".  He stated, and I quote, "If AMDs audience is those who require
>good numbers running their chess applications, well, that's good news for
>Intel."
>
>I have no doubts this guy is for real.  And I will setup this system as he has
>"instructed".  Whoever turned me in, thanks!  ;)
>
>To quote a movie, "We now have corporate sponsorship."  :D



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