Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 17:51:18 05/09/02
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On May 09, 2002 at 06:47:33, Kurt Utzinger wrote: diep gives +3.5 for white up at depth=21 for kc3!! it gets +4.5 for white up at depth 22 or so. score rising. >On May 09, 2002 at 02:39:13, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>Diep - Crafty >> >[D]>8/p1p3p1/7p/1Pk5/P7/1P1K2P1/7P/8 w - - 4 41 >> >>kc3!! >> >>regrettably diep didn't care between kc3 and g4 and went >>for g4. Kc3 is a clear win IMHO. >> >>g4 a simple draw. > >I am not so sure. The computer program's evaluation after Kc3 or g4 do not much >differ and it could be that the programs see more than all the people here by >simply guessing. Anyway, a most interesting position and I am going to make some >deeper analysis. >Kurt > >Hiarcs does not make the winning move 41.Kc3 for the correct reason and the >program does not understand the position. Prove the analyses below: >******************************************************************************************** > >Utzinger,K - Hiarcs 8 >8/p1p3p1/7p/1Pk5/P7/1P1K2P1/7P/8 w - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Hiarcs 8: > >41.g4 Kb4 42.Kc2 > +- (1.92) Depth: 1 00:00:00 > +- (1.83) Depth: 2/7 00:00:00 >41.Kc3 h5 42.b4+ Kd5 43.a5 g5 44.Kd3 h4 45.gxh4 gxh4 46.h3 Ke5 > +- (1.88) Depth: 2/7 00:00:00 > +- (2.04) Depth: 16/33 00:01:16 19971kN, tb=575 > >(Utzinger, Switzerland 09.05.2002) >******************************************************************************************* >Analysis after 41.g4 > >Utzinger,K - Hiarcs 8 >8/p1p3p1/7p/1Pk5/P5P1/1P1K4/7P/8 b - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Hiarcs 8: > >41...Kb4 42.Kc2 g5 43.Kb2 Kc5 44.Kc3 Kd5 45.Kd3 Kc5 46.h3 > +- (1.83) Depth: 1 00:00:00 > +- (2.04) Depth: 17/38 00:02:06 31246kN, tb=3639 > >(Utzinger, Switzerland 09.05.2002) >******************************************************************************************** >Neue Stellung >8/p1p3p1/7p/1Pk5/P7/1P1K2P1/7P/8 w - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Fritz 7: (v 7.0.0.6) > >1.g4 Kb4 2.Kc2 Kc5 3.Kc3 Kd5 4.Kb4 Kd4 5.Ka5 Kc3 6.b4 Kc4 7.h4 > ± (1.35) Tiefe: 9/15 00:00:00 143kN > ± (1.29) Tiefe: 13/20 00:00:02 1451kN >1.Kc3 h5 2.h3 Kd5 3.Kd3 g5 4.b4 Ke5 > ± (1.32) Tiefe: 13/21 00:00:04 2397kN > ± (1.32) Tiefe: 14/22 00:00:07 4098kN >1.g4 Kb4 2.Kc2 g6 3.Kb2 Kc5 4.Kc3 > ± (1.35) Tiefe: 14/22 00:00:07 4578kN > ± (1.32) Tiefe: 16/27 00:00:25 15473kN, tb=59 >1.Kc3 h5 2.b4+ Kd5 3.Kd3 g5 4.h3 Ke5 5.Ke3 Kd5 6.h4 gxh4 7.gxh4 Ke5 8.a5 > ± (1.35) Tiefe: 16/27 00:00:30 18882kN, tb=70 > ± (1.29) Tiefe: 18/32 00:02:04 78578kN, tb=1138 >1.g4! Kb4 2.Kc2 g6 3.Kb2 Kc5 > ± (1.32) Tiefe: 18/32 00:02:22 90901kN, tb=1606 > +- (1.41) Tiefe: 18/32 00:02:37 100798kN, tb=1872 > >(Utzinger, Switzerland 09.05.2002) >********************************************************************************************
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