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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 8 vs Shredder Paderborn

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 08:39:24 05/10/02

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On May 09, 2002 at 08:09:05, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On May 09, 2002 at 07:33:11, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>Last night I played Hiarcs 8 vs Shredder Paderborn @ Game/60 minutes.  Final
>>score was S.P. winning by 8.5-3.5.
>
>Just out of curiosity 12 games at G/60 requires at least 20 hours and at the
>most 24 hours. That was the longest night that I have seen. :!).
>
>Pichard.
>
>
>>Here are the scores of 3 matches so far by Hiarcs 8:
>>
>>Hiarcs 8 vs Fritz 7  4-8
>>Hiarcs 8 vs Junior 7 6-6
>>Hiarcs 8 vs S.P.    3.5-8.5
>>Total              13.5-22.5
>>
>>These 36 games put Hiarcs 8 at #20 on my database Elo list behind such notables
>>as Crafty 18.13 and Fritz 5.32.  I am tempted to do the unthinkable and play
>>Hiarcs 8 vs Hiarcs 7.32 but It's now Tigers turn to face the new monster!?
>
>Plus your database is only based on Blitz games NOT at standard time control. I
>strongly believe that NOT too many program can compete against Hiarcs 8 using
>time control equal or longer than the SSDF time control. Also Hiarcs 8 and Rebel
>Century might benefit more than any other program against human using standard
>time control, probably Rebel Century and Hiarcs 8 might be the only two programs
>that can compete well against human GM at longer time control.
>
>Pichard.

Hi Jorge,
First of all Game/60 minutes is not really blitz even though it is a sudden
death game.  Do you really believe that 1 or 2 more ply will make Hiarcs come to
life and do nothing for it's opponents???  Hiarcs is hitting 11-14 ply typically
at this time control.  It is also out searched by all other programs at any time
control. (Except maybe by CSTal II)  As a matter of fact it reminds me of CSTal
II since it's moves look good on the surface but it's score against computers is
usually on a downward trend.  As for play vs Humans you can only speculate.  The
2 games played mean literally nothing.  I will let the SSDF test it at 40/2 as
usual.  As a final note I did not buy Hiarcs to play it against GMs since I
don't own any GMs.
Regards,
Jim



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