Author: Jorge
Date: 15:36:18 05/10/02
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On May 10, 2002 at 11:39:24, James T. Walker wrote: >On May 09, 2002 at 08:09:05, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >>On May 09, 2002 at 07:33:11, James T. Walker wrote: >> >>>Last night I played Hiarcs 8 vs Shredder Paderborn @ Game/60 minutes. Final >>>score was S.P. winning by 8.5-3.5. >> >>Just out of curiosity 12 games at G/60 requires at least 20 hours and at the >>most 24 hours. That was the longest night that I have seen. :!). >> >>Pichard. >> >> >>>Here are the scores of 3 matches so far by Hiarcs 8: >>> >>>Hiarcs 8 vs Fritz 7 4-8 >>>Hiarcs 8 vs Junior 7 6-6 >>>Hiarcs 8 vs S.P. 3.5-8.5 >>>Total 13.5-22.5 >>> >>>These 36 games put Hiarcs 8 at #20 on my database Elo list behind such notables >>>as Crafty 18.13 and Fritz 5.32. I am tempted to do the unthinkable and play >>>Hiarcs 8 vs Hiarcs 7.32 but It's now Tigers turn to face the new monster!? >> >>Plus your database is only based on Blitz games NOT at standard time control. I >>strongly believe that NOT too many program can compete against Hiarcs 8 using >>time control equal or longer than the SSDF time control. Also Hiarcs 8 and Rebel >>Century might benefit more than any other program against human using standard >>time control, probably Rebel Century and Hiarcs 8 might be the only two programs >>that can compete well against human GM at longer time control. >> >>Pichard. > >Hi Jorge, >First of all Game/60 minutes is not really blitz even though it is a sudden >death game. Do you really believe that 1 or 2 more ply will make Hiarcs come to >life and do nothing for it's opponents??? Hiarcs is hitting 11-14 ply typically >at this time control. It is also out searched by all other programs at any time >control. (Except maybe by CSTal II) As a matter of fact it reminds me of CSTal >II since it's moves look good on the surface but it's score against computers is >usually on a downward trend. As for play vs Humans you can only speculate. The >2 games played mean literally nothing. I will let the SSDF test it at 40/2 as >usual. As a final note I did not buy Hiarcs to play it against GMs since I >don't own any GMs. >Regards, >Jim I don't wish to stir a quarrel, but I am not the least impressed with the new H8. After such a long time waiting for Hiarcs, it is a bit dissapointing to see these results :( . I remember when Hiarcs732 first came out - it gave Fritz532 and Junior6? all it could handle. It was the program to beat for some time! That was very exciting to me! I hope Chessmaster9000 won't be the same way. regrds, jorge
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