Author: K. Burcham
Date: 08:47:25 05/11/02
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On May 11, 2002 at 11:38:07, K. Burcham wrote:
>
>Chess Tiger 14.0 vs GM Kiriakov 2552 FIDE
>
>First move not in Tiger book, played by GM, 8...e5
>only move I made was 9.dxe5.
>Tiger wanted to play 9.d5, which helps to close position.
> [D] r1b1k2r/ppp1qppp/2np1n2/4p3/2PP4/P4NP1/1P1QPPBP/RN2K2R w KQkq - 0 1
>It seems pawn exchanges early helps prevent closed positions.
>9.dxe5 dxe5 opened the d file.
>
>Tiger takes advantage of open d file, plays 11.Nd5, which offers
>knight exchange, and allows 16.cxd5 advancing the white pawn on open file.
> [D] r2q1rk1/ppp2pp1/2n4p/3Pp3/8/P3QPP1/1P3PBP/R2R2K1 b - - 0 1
>
>This same d5 pawn allows 24.Re6, with pawn protecting rook, if black
>decides to exchange.
> [D] r2q2k1/1pp2rp1/3nR2p/p2P1p2/8/P1Q2PPB/1P3P1P/2R3K1 b - - 0 1
>
>not sure why Tiger played 34.Kf1, maybe 34.Bd3 or 34.Ba4 is stronger.
>
>very satisfied with Chess Tiger time control, compared to other programs.
>esp. Deep Shredder. Deep Shredder (sometimes) will not use time in long games.
>
>I want a program that uses more time with first moves out of book, and also uses
>more time if opponent starts using more time. I noticed some programs if eval
>is + will move very fast at shallow depth. then when it is too late and eval is
>dropping, same program will use up clock. this is not good in long standard
>games.
>
>looking forward to release of Ed's program for windows. when I purchase, I will
>set up match using new program.
>
>Robert said to interfere with program makes results have no meaning. I
>understand why he said this. also Chris said he is only interested in games
>where operator does not interfere. I understand why Chris said this. this game
>is an example that if code were in program to exchange pawns early, the same
>program would have won this game without operator interference, using same
>lines.
>
>all these human vs program results we can learn from. They may not have meaning
>to some but they do to me. I enjoy very much to take program and try to see why
>moves were made, or why win or loss by program.
>
>
>GM plays 50...Nc4 hoping to pin whites queen. but his comment "pure program
>move" makes me think he did not see the line. program lets GM pin Queen
>to win rook and advance pawn to a file for Queen.
(correction) program lets GM pin Queen
to win rook and advance pawn to promote to Queen.
> [D] 5r2/R2B2pk/1p1nP2p/5p2/1P1q1P2/5PP1/2Q4P/5K2 b - - 6 1
>
>
>after 55...Qf1 tiger says mate in 5
> [D] 5Q2/R2B2pk/1p5p/5p2/1P3P2/5PP1/2n4P/2K2q2 w - - 0 1
>
>
>
>[Event "ICC 90 30"]
>[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
>[Date "2002.05.10"]
>[Round "4"]
>[White "xracer"]
>[Black "Petrovich"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ICCResult "Black resigns"]
>[WhiteElo "2606"]
>[BlackElo "2483"]
>[Opening "Bogo-Indian defense, Nimzovich variation"]
>[ECO "E11"]
>[NIC "QI.01"]
>[Time "22:10:01"]
>[TimeControl "5400+30"]
>
>1. d4 e6 2. c4 Nf6 3. Nf3 Bb4+ 4. Bd2 Qe7 5. g3 Nc6 6. a3 Bxd2+ 7. Qxd2 d6
>8. Bg2 e5 9. dxe5 dxe5 10. Nc3 O-O 11. Nd5 Qd8 12. O-O h6 13. Rfd1 Bg4 14.
>Qe3 Bxf3 15. exf3 Nxd5 16. cxd5 Nd4 17. Qxe5 Nb5 18. Bf1 Nd6 19. Rac1 Re8
>20. Qc3 Re7 21. Bh3 a5 22. Rd3 f5 23. Re3 Rf7 24. Re6 Qd7 25. Bf1 b6 26.
>Rce1 Raf8 27. Bd3 Qd8 28. f4 Rf6 29. f3 R6f7 30. Rc1 Re8 31. Qe5 Ref8 32.
>Rc6 Rd7 33. Bc2 Rdf7 34. Kf1 Rd7 35. Bb3 Kh7 36. Ba4 Rdf7 37. Rc1 Kg8 38.
>Bc6 Kh7 39. b4 axb4 40. axb4 Rf6 41. Ra1 Rxe6 42. dxe6 Qe7 43. Ra7 Rf6 44.
>Bd7 Qd8 45. Qe1 Qb8 46. Qa1 Qd8 47. Qa4 Rf8 48. Qc6 Qf6 49. Qxc7 Qd4 50. Qc2
>Nc4 51. e7 Ne3+ 52. Ke2 Nxc2 53. exf8=Q Qe3+ 54. Kd1 Qd3+ 55. Kc1 Qf1+ 56.
>Kb2 {Black resigns} 1-0
>
>
>
>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: hi
>xracer(C) kibitzes: hello and good luck
>
>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: i'd like closed position :)
>xracer(C) kibitzes: yes I know, I need open file
>
>cmslim(C) kibitzes: what's the score of the match so far?
>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: :(
>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: 3-4
>
>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: hopeless :(
>
>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: nice plan b2-b4 and Bb5-c6 Ra1->a8
>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: comp is really good
>
>xracer(C) kibitzes: after b4 didnt think you would play 39...axb4. opens a
>file
>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: otherwise bxa5
>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: pawn a5 becomes dead
>
>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: pure comp move:)
>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: Ne3 + doesnot matter
>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: Nd4 Qxg7 :)
>
>{Game 172 (xracer vs. Petrovich) Petrovich resigns} 1-0
>Black resigns
>Standard rating adjustment: 2594 --> 2606
>Petrovich(GM) tells you: it was not my best match :)
>Petrovich(GM) tells you: well, at least i won 1 game in a row:)
>/tell petrovich some errors this game
>(told Petrovich)
>.Qf1=mate in 5
>(told Petrovich)
>Petrovich(GM) tells you: there was no escape
>.at least not a closed opening for me
>(told Petrovich)
>Petrovich(GM) tells you: comp cant play without open files:)
>.9.dxe5 opened file
>(told Petrovich)
>.8.e5 was not in my book
>Petrovich(GM) tells you: e5 was too early
>.8...a5 only move in book
>(told Petrovich)
>.you moved fast for long game----another game with over 50 minutes on clock for
>you
>(told Petrovich)
>Petrovich(GM) tells you: yes,, i played fast and badly
>Petrovich(GM) tells you: sorry
>
>.i want to tell you what would be my best game from you
>(told Petrovich)
>.you play at a very high level 2600, program plays a very good game 2600, but
>program loses in open position
>(told Petrovich)
>.very open position, with loss for program is very good for program study
>(told Petrovich, who has been idle for 2 minutes)
>.these games we study very much
>(told Petrovich, who has been idle for 2 minutes)
>Petrovich(GM) tells you: hm
>Petrovich(GM) tells you: i won a few games with positional sacrifices
>Petrovich(GM) tells you: vs. Crafty
>.yes those are very good study games
>(told Petrovich)
>Petrovich(GM) tells you: sometimes programs make mistakes in long variants which
>leads to pawn endings
>.yes i know
>(told Petrovich)
>.and the eval will not show until too late, program cannot see when it is lost
>with pawn endgame sometime
>(told Petrovich)
>
>Petrovich(GM) tells you: we can continue our co-operation
>Petrovich(GM) tells you: do u want just improve your engine? what's your goal?
>.my goal is to collect GM vs program games, played at a high level, no blunders.
>to learn what programs need to improve strength against humans
>(told Petrovich)
>
>kburcham
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