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Subject: Re: Selective Search ratings May 03/2002

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 08:45:13 05/13/02

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On May 13, 2002 at 11:35:58, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On May 13, 2002 at 11:23:12, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On May 13, 2002 at 09:26:55, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.elhchess.demon.co.uk/ehss.htm
>>>
>>>.............BCF Elo.. Program
>>>
>>> 1      260 2686 Fritz7
>>> 2      259 2670 Hiarcs8 (236 games from many sources)
>>> 3      257 2656 Gambit Tiger2.0
>>> 4      256 2653 Deep Fritz6
>>> 5      256 2652 Chess Tiger14
>>> 6      255 2640 Shredder6/632
>>> 7      253 2630 Junior7
>>> 8      253 2624 Gambit Tiger1.0
>>> 9      252 2623 Fritz6a
>>>10      252 2617 Rebel Century4 (236 games)
>>>11      250 2605 Rebel Tiger12.0
>>>12      250 2603 Junior6a
>>>13      249 2599 Shredder5/532
>>>14      248 2587 Hiarcs732
>>>15      246 2574 Hiarcs 7.1
>>>16      246 2572 Nimzo8
>>>17      246 2568 Gandalf5
>>>18      245 2566 Nimzo 732
>>>19      245 2560 Fritz532
>>>20      244 2556 Chessmaster 6000/7000
>>
>>I wonder if they have a different Hiarcs 8 program than I do??????
>>Jim
>
>No. However, these are human vs. computer games.
>
>Moreover, your comp. vs. comp. games, seems inconsistent to other comp. vs.
>comp. games, and it makes wonder what are you doing that may have an adverse
>effect with Hiarcs 8?
>
>Terry

Hello Terry,
First of all they are NOT all human/computer games.  Many are comp/comp games.
Second, I also would like to know what I'm doing to make Hiarcs 8 play so bad.
However I have posted ALL games except for I belive 1 set and they are open for
inspection/complaints/recommendations.  Also most inconsistent result compared
to mine are engine/engine games with ponder off.  That in my opinion is a very
questionable way to test engines.  Of course if you are only trying to prove
which engine is best with ponder off and each engine competing for cpu time on 1
cpu then that's fine.  I just don't believe it's a real world situation.  If you
or anyone else can tell me what I'm doing wrong to cause Hiarcs 8 to play
terrible I will be very happy!  Just remember that I am occasionally switching
computers and so when Hiarcs loses to Fritz by 8-4 on one computer it has also
lost to Chess Tiger by 8.5-3.5 when using the computer that Fritz used before.
Please inspect the games and tell me what is wrong with my setup or with Hiarcs
8 program.
Jim



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