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Subject: Re: How incredulous! What can 2-3 GM games show? It should be atleast 3-400!

Author: Marc van Hal

Date: 15:15:41 05/13/02

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On May 12, 2002 at 11:44:17, stuart taylor wrote:

>On May 12, 2002 at 08:30:08, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>I see that a lot of people are complaining about the poor performance of Hiarcs8
>>vs other programs, but the reason to buy it was NOT because you saw HIARCS 8
>>drawing againsg Deep Blue nor the other top Programs on the SSDF. Face it, the
>>reason was because you saw how well it performed against GM Gulko and GM Smirin,
>>plus the fact that it was a windows version of what you dreamed Rebel Century of
>>being years ago. When Rebel Century is released people again will start their
>>engines hoping to see a major improvement, but what you really will get is a
>>good solid program just like HIARCS 8 that can play chess at 2700 against GM.
>>
>>Pichard.
>Isn't that what is being said all along? So both Smirin and Gulko must play
>about 500 games each before you even begin to say if Hiarcs is good against
>them!
>S.Taylor

If that would be the reason you always will find yourself in a bad position.
I most of the make my verdict about a program myself no mather what anyone says
Or what the performance is against  other programs
Then again this is not for everybody
An other reason why I would buy a program is if it shows anything new.
Rebel and Junior most of the time don't disapoint me in this
I can't say to much about Fritz7 but Fritz also changed much from style trough
the years
Though not always to my liking.
For me  Fritz5.32 was more intresting then Fritz6.
At the moment I am intrested in CM9000 I think it might suprise us.(At least
Ihope)
The same counts for Tiger though I am sure Christophe has a time full of stress
now.
Hiarcs is just as Rebel a positional program though I think Rebel has a litle
more tactical understanding.
Especialy in the positional moves it finds to increase an attack
By this Rebel and Tiger still are the top(Espacialy after you create some good
personeletys).
Though i think it still is to materialstic.

But If a program finds a solution no other program or human would think of
And it is good.
Then it contributes something intresting
especialy if it can increase a attack step by step or a deep positional plan.
This would be for me the reason to buy a program like for instance Hiarcs8.

Regards                          Marc van Hal



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