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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 8 vs Fritz 7 @ L O N G Time Control Score W2 L2 !

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:25:28 05/14/02

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On May 14, 2002 at 06:11:55, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>I always wondered if Fritz 7 with longer time control = more powerful machine
>could play better ?!
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>Hiarcs 8 (2700) - Fritz 7 (2715) [E86]
>Athlon 1.2 Ghz, 120'/30+120'/30+30' My Place (1), 12.05.2002
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>W=13.2 ply; 125kN/s
>B=14.9 ply; 686kN/s
> 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f3 0-0 6.Be3 e5 7.Nge2 c6 8.Qd2 Nbd7
>9.0-0-0 a6 10.Kb1 b5 11.Nc1 White last book move 11...Qe7 12.dxe5  0.96/13  9:27
> dxe5 Black last book move 13.Nb3  0.96/13  8:26  Qb4  0.56/14  7:41  14.Qd6
>1.08/12  5:16  Qxd6  0.75/16  6:30  15.Rxd6  1.08/13  3:26  b4 (¤b8)  0.81/16
>7:43  16.Na4  1.40/14  6:06  Ne8  1.09/17  12:25  17.Rd2  1.48/13  4:21  f5
>1.16/16  9:03  18.Na5 (¥d3)  1.53/13  6:22  18...fxe4  0.78/15  5:31  19.Nxc6
>1.59/12  3:00  Nef6  0.81/14  4:40  20.c5 (¤xb4)  1.77/12  6:41  20...exf3 (¢h8)
> 1.00/14  4:53  21.gxf3  1.84/12  5:40  Bb7 (b3)  1.25/15  10:57  22.Ne7+
>3.36/13  6:47  Kf7  2.00/16  5:16  23.c6  3.40/13  5:05  Kxe7  2.41/14  5:41
>24.cxb7  4.15/13  5:29  Rab8 (¦ad8)  2.84/14  5:31  25.Bxa6  4.14/13  5:28  e4
>(b3)  3.41/14  24:04  26.Bf4  5.35/12  7:13  Ke6 (b3)  3.34/12  1:49  27.Bxb8
>5.53/11  6:28  Rxb8  3.50/14  1:38  28.fxe4  5.52/13  6:37  Bh6  3.81/14  1:36
>29.Rd4  5.63/14  8:58  b3  3.84/14  1:54  30.axb3 (¦hd1)  5.78/13  4:29
>30...Bf4  3.34/13  1:36  31.h3  5.85/13  3:39  Ke7 (¥e3)  3.53/14  3:24  32.Rc4
>5.97/13  4:10  Be5 (g5)  3.84/15  8:10  33.Rd1  6.17/13  3:07  Bf4 (g5)  4.44/14
> 4:27  34.Nc3  6.65/13  3:42  h5 (¥e5)  4.94/13  2:50  35.Rc8  7.58/12  3:22
>Ke6 (g5)  5.37/13  3:23  36.Nb5  8.57/12  2:26  Ke5  5.66/12  3:02  37.Na7 (¦e1)
> 9.91/13  3:36  37...Kxe4  6.37/14  16:52  38.Nc6  10.05/12  2:31  Bh2 (¢f5)
>7.69/13  14:31  39.Nxb8  13.70/12  3:44  Nxb8  8.97/14  2:26  40.Bd3+  13.97/12
>3:22  Kf3  9.44/14  3:15  41.Bxg6  14.41/12  3:24  Nfd7 (¥e5)  11.91/14  8:52
>1-0
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>Fritz 7 (2715) - Hiarcs 8 (2700) [E86]
>Athlon 1.2 Ghz, 120'/30+120'/30+30' My Place (2), 12.05.2002
>
>W=15.4 ply; 694kN/s
>B=12.9 ply; 125kN/s
> 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f3 0-0 6.Be3 e5 7.Nge2 c6 8.Qd2 Nbd7
>9.0-0-0 a6 10.Kb1 b5 11.Nc1 White last book move 11...exd4 12.Bxd4 Re8 13.Nb3
>Bf8 14.h4 b4 15.Ne2 a5 16.h5 c5 17.Be3 a4 18.Nbc1 Nxh5 19.Bg5 Be7 20.Bxe7 Qxe7
>21.g4 Bb7  -0.65/13  17:59  22.gxh5  0.88/16  17:54  Bxe4+  -0.54/13  10:34
>23.fxe4  1.03/16  16:07  Qxe4+  -0.52/13  11:05  24.Nd3  0.91/16  15:32  Qxh1
>-0.44/13  31:38  25.Nef4  0.91/14  4:45  Qh4  -0.38/12  9:16  26.Bg2  0.97/13
>2:04  Rac8 (¦a6)  -0.33/12  9:03  27.hxg6  1.28/13  3:33  hxg6  -0.02/12  17:44
>28.Rh1  1.03/13  2:31  Qf6 (£g3)  0.28/13  8:57  29.Bb7 (¥h3)  1.56/14  3:28
>29...Rcd8 (¦b8)  0.00/12  2:14  30.Bc6 (£h2)  1.53/14  3:18  30...a3 (¤b6)
>0.00/11  2:00  31.b3 (£h2)  1.81/14  3:50  31...Qg7  0.17/12  4:57  32.Qg2 (£f2)
> 1.84/14  4:20  32...Kf8 (¦f8)  0.34/12  5:58  33.Qg5 (¤d5)  1.94/13  3:09
>33...Kg8  0.16/12  12:52  34.Rh2 (¦g1)  1.75/13  2:53  34...Qf6  0.04/11  2:45
>35.Qh6  1.84/14  3:03  Qg7  0.17/12  3:51  36.Qh3 (£h4)  1.84/15  2:26  36...Re7
> 0.02/12  1:56  37.Nd5 (¤h5)  1.72/15  5:19  37...Re6  0.00/11  1:00  38.Nc7
>(¤5f4)  1.72/15  3:59  38...Re7  0.00/13  2:55  39.Bxd7 (¤d5)  1.66/15  3:27
>39...Rexd7  0.00/14  3:49  40.Nd5  1.66/16  6:02  Qd4 (f5)  0.00/12  2:27
>41.Rh1 (£h7+)  1.72/14  2:45  41...Kf8 (f5)  0.10/13  5:05  42.Qh6+  2.13/15
>3:34  Qg7  0.54/15  16:37  43.Qg5  2.53/16  2:46  Qd4  0.52/13  2:37  44.Rh3
>2.56/15  1:42  Kg7  0.52/13  3:08  45.Qh6+  2.38/15  2:42  Kg8  0.52/6  0
>46.Rf3  2.16/15  2:26  Qg7  0.52/13  3:35  47.Nf6+ (£g5)  2.16/14  1:45
>47...Kf8  0.41/13  1:40  48.Nxd7+  2.31/15  2:52  Rxd7  0.42/13  2:35  49.Qf4
>(£h2)  2.09/15  4:32  49...f5 (£h8)  0.45/12  3:37  50.Re3  2.22/15  4:30  Kf7
>0.40/13  2:07  51.Qh4  2.25/16  4:49  Qf6 (g5)  0.25/13  2:44  52.Qh7+ (£h1)
>1.84/17  6:43  52...Qg7  0.19/14  1:50  53.Qh1  1.56/18  24:33  Qd4  0.19/14
>4:00  54.Qh6 (£h3)  1.56/16  20:03  54...Qg7  0.00/14  1:57  55.Qh2  -0.12/18
>16:45  Re7  0.00/14  4:20  56.Rg3 (¦xe7+)  0.00/17  7:09  56...Re6 (£d4)
>-0.13/12  3:36  57.Rg2 (£f2)  0.56/16  5:03  57...Qd4  -0.23/12  3:10  58.Qh7+
>0.25/16  4:03  Kf8 (£g7)  -0.17/13  3:44  59.Qh6+  0.00/16  6:18  Ke8 (¢e7)
>-0.02/14  7:20  60.Nc1 (¦d2)  0.22/17  7:15  60...Qe4+  -0.68/13  1:55  61.Rc2
>0.13/17  2:26  f4  -0.68/13  1:04  62.Qh3  0.22/15  37  f3 (¢d7)  -0.67/12  1:00
> 63.Nd3  0.00/15  1:08  g5 (¢d7)  -0.67/12  59  64.Rd2  0.00/13  32  g4
>-0.84/11  57  65.Qh4 (£h8+)  -0.44/13  1:38  65...Qg6  -1.47/10  40  66.Qh8+
>(£f2)  -0.97/13  1:55  66...Kf7  -1.76/11  47  67.Qc8  -0.78/12  40  Kg7 (¦e1+)
>-2.01/11  53  68.Qb7+  -1.09/12  46  Qf7  -2.49/11  35  69.Qc6 (£xf7+)  -1.62/13
> 1:06  69...g3  -4.07/10  42  70.Rd1  -2.25/12  49  Rg6  -4.33/10  36  71.Kc1
>(£d5)  -2.62/12  1:30  71...g2  -5.20/11  40  72.Rg1  -2.94/13  30  f2  -5.45/11
> 34  73.Nxf2  -3.19/13  20  Qxf2 (£f4+)  -5.70/11  44  74.Qd7+  -3.53/13  1:19
>Kf6  -6.26/12  43  75.Qxd6+  -3.56/13  1:12  Kg5  -6.26/11  31  76.Qd2+ (¦xg2+)
>-5.31/13  26  76...Qxd2+  -12.25/15  27  77.Kxd2  -6.56/17  4  Kf4  -12.74/16
>27  78.Ke2  -8.28/19  33  Kg3  -12.99/15  29  79.Ke3 (¢d3)  -9.62/16  15
>79...Re6+  -#16/13  7  80.Kd3 (¢d2)  -8.56/17  52  0-1
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>Fritz 7 (2715) - Hiarcs 8 (2700) [D93]
>Athlon 1.2 Ghz, 120'/30+120'/30+30' My Place (2), 13.05.2002
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>W=15.0 ply; 620kN/s
>B=12.4 ply; 110kN/s
> 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Bf4 0-0 6.e3 c5 7.dxc5 Qa5 8.Rc1 dxc4
>9.Bxc4 Qxc5 10.Bb3 Nc6 11.0-0 Qa5 12.h3 Bf5 13.Qe2 Ne4 14.Nd5 e5 15.Bh2 Nc5
>16.e4 Rad8 17.Rfd1 Bxe4 18.Rxc5 Bxf3 19.Qe3 Bxd1 20.Rxa5 Nxa5 21.Ne7+ Kh8 22.Bd5
>Both last book move 22...f6  -0.27/14  20:23  23.Qxa7  -0.34/16  20:36  Nc6
>(¦a8)  -0.30/14  17:34  24.Nxc6  -0.09/16  34:40  Rxd5  -0.16/14  15:09  25.Qxb7
> 0.22/16  21:58  Ba4  -0.09/13  13:08  26.Bg3  0.41/16  8:19  Rd2  -0.08/13
>11:45  27.Na5  0.50/15  7:21  Be8 (¥c2)  -0.10/13  10:52  28.Nc4  0.56/16  6:19
>Rd7  -0.11/12  10:52  29.Qa6  0.53/16  9:07  Bf7  -0.01/13  9:18  30.b3  0.53/14
> 4:42  Kg8  -0.01/12  6:15  31.f3  0.72/13  3:20  Rfd8 (¦d1+)  0.05/12  4:45
>32.Bf2 (¢h2)  0.84/14  7:28  32...f5  0.05/12  4:13  33.a4 (¥h4)  0.91/13  4:01
>33...e4  -0.17/11  3:42  34.fxe4  0.88/13  4:17  fxe4  -0.17/11  4:12  35.a5
>0.88/13  4:49  Rd1+ (¦d3)  -0.18/11  5:31  36.Kh2  0.94/14  5:38  R1d3  0.00/11
>6:14  37.Qb5 (b4)  0.94/14  6:26  37...Bh6  0.25/11  13:28  38.Bg3  0.84/14
>3:33  Bg7  0.68/11  9:36  39.a6  1.53/14  5:48  Rd1 (e3)  0.93/11  11:13  40.Bc7
>(¤e5)  2.53/14  2:54  40...Rf8  2.17/11  3:35  41.Bd6  2.59/14  3:15  Rd8 (¦a8)
>2.82/12  8:05  42.a7  3.28/13  1:37  Bf6  2.70/11  1:37  43.Bc7 (£b8)  3.56/13
>4:24  43...Rf8  4.56/12  13:43  44.Qc5 (¤e3)  3.41/12  1:51  44...Ra8  4.38/12
>4:42  45.Bb8 (£b6)  4.50/13  1:14  45...Kg7 (¥g7)  4.87/11  3:44  46.Qc6
>5.13/14  1:47  Rxa7  5.60/12  8:29  47.Bxa7  5.41/14  1:55  Rd5  5.85/11  2:43
>48.Bc5 (¤e3)  5.81/15  8:58  48...Bg5  6.41/12  3:27  49.Bb4 (¤e3)  6.25/14
>6:31  49...Bf6  6.69/12  2:16  50.Ne3 (¥f8+)  7.28/14  2:23  50...Be5+  9.52/13
>5:55  51.g3  8.19/15  1:58  Rd3 (¦d8)  9.23/9  20  52.Qxe4  8.38/13  1:28  Rxe3
>10.35/12  41  1-0
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>Hiarcs 8 (2700) - Fritz 7 (2715) [E57]
>Athlon 1.2 Ghz, 120'/30+120'/30+30' My Place (3), 13.05.2002
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>W=12.0 ply; 116kN/s
>B=14.3 ply; 647kN/s
> 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.c4 e6 4.Nc3 c5 5.e3 Nc6 6.a3 cxd4 7.exd4 Be7 8.Bd3 dxc4
>9.Bxc4 0-0 10.0-0 b6 11.Qd3 Bb7 12.Ba2 Rc8 13.Bg5 Nd5 14.Nxd5 Bxg5 15.Nc3 Bf6
>16.Rad1 g6 17.Rfe1 Ne7 18.Ne5 Nd5 19.Ne4 Bg7 Both last book move 20.Qd2
>-0.55/11  9:32  Rc7  -0.31/14  8:29  21.Nc3 (f3)  -0.41/12  10:35  21...Nxc3
>(a6)  -0.44/16  31:14  22.bxc3  -0.32/12  3:30  Qh4 (£d6)  -0.41/14  8:37
>23.Nxf7 (c4)  -0.22/13  22:52  23...Rfxf7  -0.59/14  4:17  24.Bxe6  -0.15/12
>6:40  Bf8  -0.63/15  8:23  25.a4 (¦e3)  -0.08/11  11:07  25...Kg7  -0.81/16
>18:15  26.Bxf7  -0.41/12  11:30  Rxf7  -0.81/14  2:07  27.h3  -0.39/13  14:28
>Bd6 (¥d5)  -1.03/14  5:08  28.Re6 (¦b1)  -0.55/13  14:49  28...Bf4  -1.22/15
>9:12  29.Qd3 (£a2)  -0.71/12  11:07  29...Bd5 (¥c7)  -1.19/13  2:48  30.Re2
>-0.52/11  1:48  Bd6 (¦c7)  -1.28/13  2:29  31.Rde1  -1.52/12  13:56  Rf5
>-1.41/13  2:40  32.c4 (£e3)  -1.70/12  6:55  32...Bf3  -1.78/14  3:27  33.Qe3
>(¦e5)  -1.80/11  4:44  33...Bxe2  -1.94/15  3:42  34.Rxe2  -2.38/12  2:16  Qf6
>(£f4)  -1.97/15  7:51  35.Kf1 (g3)  -2.04/12  3:25  35...Ra5  -2.22/15  3:58
>36.Ra2  -2.04/13  4:04  Qf5  -2.25/16  8:21  37.Qb3 (¦a1)  -2.41/13  6:56
>37...h6 (£e4)  -2.13/14  5:39  38.Re2  -2.13/12  5:11  Qf4 (£f6)  -2.19/14  3:20
> 39.c5 (d5)  -2.28/12  5:19  39...Bf8  -2.44/14  5:41  40.cxb6 (£d5)  -2.29/11
>2:58  40...axb6  -2.66/13  1:51  41.Qc4 (£e3)  -2.46/12  8:04  41...Qh2 (¦c5)
>-2.47/14  4:23  42.Re8 (¦e6)  -2.32/11  5:26  42...Rf5  -2.84/14  2:01  43.f3
>-2.18/11  5:53  Rg5  -2.59/15  8:56  44.g4  -2.33/11  2:38  Qxh3+  -2.91/13
>2:03  45.Ke2 (¢f2)  -2.33/12  2:03  45...Qg2+  -2.59/13  3:53  46.Ke3  -2.37/12
>1:24  Qg1+ (£g3)  -2.38/14  10:14  47.Ke2  -2.30/12  2:10  Qh2+  -2.47/13  4:24
>48.Kd3  -2.41/12  3:52  Qf4  -2.66/14  5:34  49.Qc6  -2.37/12  2:09  Kh7 (h5)
>-2.69/14  5:14  50.Qe4  -2.45/12  4:57  Qf7  -2.97/14  4:20  51.Re6 (¦e5)
>-2.54/12  3:35  51...b5 (£a7)  -3.03/14  5:02  52.axb5  -2.61/12  3:57  Rxb5
>-3.28/14  4:09  53.f4 (¢e2)  -3.21/12  11:08  53...h5  -3.47/13  4:19  54.f5
>(£c6)  -3.21/11  1:14  54...Qc7 (gxf5)  -3.97/12  3:14  55.fxg6+  -4.01/10  4:20
> Kg7  -4.03/12  2:09  56.Qe2  -4.49/10  1:51  hxg4 (¦b3+)  -4.28/12  2:55
>57.Qa2  -4.31/9  46  Qb7  -5.94/12  2:40  58.Re1  -4.44/8  10  Rb3+  -8.59/12
>2:31  59.Kc2  -4.56/8  3  Rf3  -8.88/12  1:30  60.Qe6  -9.20/8  14  Bd6
>-10.41/12  2:45  61.Qf7+ (¦c1)  -16.67/12  8:56  61...Rxf7  -14.28/13  32
>62.gxf7  -16.92/12  6:19  Qc6+  -14.41/11  47  63.Kd3 -27.05/11  1:53  0-1
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>Here are some additional games where I increased the 2nd second time control in
>the middlegage stage to 6 minutes per move.  It is interesting to notice that
>the longer you let HIARCS 8 think per move the better it gets.

It is truth for all programs without bugs.

Uri



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