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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 8 vs Fritz 7 @ L O N G Time Control Score W2 L2 !

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 07:22:59 05/14/02

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On May 14, 2002 at 09:21:20, Uri Blass wrote:

>On May 14, 2002 at 09:11:20, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On May 14, 2002 at 06:25:28, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On May 14, 2002 at 06:11:55, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>I always wondered if Fritz 7 with longer time control = more powerful machine
>>>>could play better ?!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hiarcs 8 (2700) - Fritz 7 (2715) [E86]
>>>>Athlon 1.2 Ghz, 120'/30+120'/30+30' My Place (1), 12.05.2002
>>>>
>>>>W=13.2 ply; 125kN/s
>>>>B=14.9 ply; 686kN/s
>>
>>>>Here are some additional games where I increased the 2nd second time control in
>>>>the middlegage stage to 6 minutes per move.  It is interesting to notice that
>>>>the longer you let HIARCS 8 think per move the better it gets.
>>>
>>>It is truth for all programs without bugs.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Athlon 1.2 Ghz. is not much more than half the speed of the top now. So you
>>could have at least doubled the time alootment.
>>
>>Uri, but is it not more true about some programs than others?
>>And whatwas the result with 6 min per move? (though I don't see anything special
>>in that at all. Normally I think it often takes longer in middle game, in
>>tournament timed games, and it is not the fastest hardware anymore (I'm sorry to
>>make you feel bad. Athlon 1.2 is still great, and you should stick with it for
>>atleast another year or longer, but statistically, it's not fairest to Hiarcs if
>>Hiarcs is meant to be what we are suggesting, but you can always give even much
>>longer time controls, which would be equivelant to 2-4 Ghz. at tournament
>>timing!).
>>S.Taylor
>
>I did not buy Hiarcs8 and my hardware is slower than A1200.
>I did not say that Hiarcs is better at long time control and I saw no evidence
>that support it.
>
>It did 2-2 against Fritz7 at long time control but it also did good results in
>blitz based on posts of some people.
>
>Uri
>Uri

Hello Uri,
All of the reported "good" results with Hiarcs 8 seem to be engine/engine
matches with ponder off especially at blitz.  I have just finished 22 games of
Hiarcs 8 vs Fritz 7 @ G/5. The score was 15-7 in favor of Fritz 7.  This is
running very close to what I'm getting at G/60.  Yes more games are needed and
if the auto232 would have kept playing last night I would have many more games.
I ran Hiarcs 8 in the Hiarcs 8 GUI so there can be no complaints about the GUI
used.
Jim



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