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Subject: Re: Selective Search ratings May 03/2002

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 07:39:07 05/14/02

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On May 14, 2002 at 01:40:45, Harald Faber wrote:

>On May 13, 2002 at 21:50:18, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>I run Hiarcs 8 in the
>>Junior 7 GUI because the Fritz 7/Shredder 6/Hiarcs 8 GUI is junk.
>
>
>LOL! :-))))))
>
>
>It has too
>>many bugs for me to deal with when using auto232.  I run ALL Chessbase programs
>>in the Junior 7 GUI with no problems.
>
>
>So you also play Junior 7 engine with Junior 7 book under the Junior 7 GUI?? Oh
>my dear...
>
>
>>I have posted many games here
>>showing Hiarcs 8 getting beat bad by almost every top program I have.  If you
>>have different results then post them.  I will be very happy to see Hiarcs
>>winning some matches.  I am a Hiarcs fan but a very disappointed one at the
>>moment.  So far the only match I have seen Hiarcs winning is the engine/engine
>>matches on one computer with ponder off.  I am switching to the Hiarcs 8 GUI
>>tonight just to make sure it's not a compatibility problem with the Junior 7 GUI
>>but I hold no real hope for that theory.  If you have some real helpful comments
>>then they are very welcome.
>>Jim
>
>
>At the moment 9.5-10.5 vs. CM8000_AS (complete) and 3.5-3.5 vs. GambitTiger 2
>aggressive, that is not what I call disappointing. AND: Hiarcs led by 7.5-2.5
>after the first 10 games vs. CM, the next 10 games ended 2.0-8.0. What does it
>say to you?
>
>BTW it would be helpful if you post the average knps Hiarcs is doing on your
>machine so that we can compare them to see whether your hardware has some
>problems.

Playing even with CM8000 is no great feat in my opinion.  It has a weak book and
no learning.  It is way down on my database Elo list.  Don't remember where at
the moment but somewhere near Fritz 5.32 (maybe #21).
Here is my Hiarcs 8 Mark:
With 64 Meg hash:  546 (12.0s) 162Kn/s
With 16 Meg hash:  565 (12.6s) 168Kn/s

By the way,  I have seen Hiarcs 8 hit over 500 Kn/s in one endgame.  I don't
rember seeing it below 100Kn/s while playing.  So the Kn/s printed by Junior 7
should be ignored.  Hiarcs 7.32 exibits the same behavior.
Jim



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