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Subject: Re: Post-match interview with GM Ilya Smirin at http://www.kasparov.com/

Author: John Reynolds

Date: 17:39:47 05/14/02

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On May 14, 2002 at 19:34:29, Chris Carson wrote:

>On May 14, 2002 at 19:26:17, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>On May 14, 2002 at 19:04:18, Chris Carson wrote:
>>
>>>On May 14, 2002 at 18:56:05, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 14, 2002 at 17:39:32, Chris Carson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Very nice interview.  My thanks to GM Smirin, he seemed to be very "open and
>>>>>honest" with his assessment.  I think all of his comments are very telling and
>>>>>the programmers and our forum should take note.  I found the follwoing points
>>>>>very interesting (just fit my own interests):
>>>>>
>>>>>1.  Computers seemed to avoid main lines.
>>>>>2.  Having White is very important against a computer.
>>>>>3.  Computers weak in closed positions and very strong in open positions.
>>>>>4.  He found himself tired, even with the breaks and shorter time controls.
>>[snipped back in]
>>>>>5.  He would like a rematch.
>>
>>>>
>>>>point 4 isn't correct according to the interview. Neither tired nor
>>>>exhausted. That's your interpretation without any basis in the text.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Mogens
>>>
>>>As usual Mogen, you are wrong:
>>>
>>>"Well, even though we played only four games per week, which helped me to pull
>>>myself together between the games, it wasn’t so easy psychologically. As a
>>>result, I lost concentration a few times during the match and it cost me at
>>>least 0.5 point (and it could be even more if the computer was more accurate!)!
>>>It’s just not so simple to play chess when you know that you have to avoid
>>>certain kind of positions, even if your intuition is telling you it’s
>>>objectively correct to go for them! However, I think I managed to withstand the
>>>pressure, and at the moment I’m full of energy and not tired at all!
>>>"
>>>
>>>A loss of concentration is "tired" or "exhausted", that is a psychological fact.
>>
>>
>>read his lips please... and look at the games.
>>"it was not easy psychologically" is given as reason for the loss of
>>concentration. not tired or exhausted. this is not the same.
>>if you look at the games, you will also understand what he means - e.g. the
>>aborted game junior-smirin, where smirin had an easy draw as black, and was
>>probably thinking along the lines "this is an easy draw and these comps are weak
>>in the ending anyway, so why don't i just move back and forth a bit, nothing can
>>happen here". he lost his concentration in this game not because he was tired,
>>but because he underestimated junior.
>>i know you have your agenda with this tired thing... don't let it influence you
>>too much :-)
>
>I do not have an agenda, although it is clear that you and Mogens do.  I am a
>psychologist.  I have a PhD in psychology.  I specialize in "cognitive" and
>"cognitive/behaviorism".  A loss of concentration is due to being tired,
>fatigued or exhausted or stress by definition.
>
>I personally do not care if you do not agree with my "opinions" however this is
>not just an opinion, but scientific fact.  If you just wish to argue, I do not
>not choose to argue with you.  If yo wish to discuss ways to improve
>concentration or reduce exhaustion or reduce psychological stress for humans,
>then we can talk, but just passing off my statements as and "agenda" is not
>worth my time.  I get no compensation in any manner from this and I resent you
>saying I have some "agenda", I have never accused you of any such thing and I
>deserver basic respect if you wish to communicate with me.



This Guy is Obviously a Moron Chris, so I would not cast my pearls before swine!



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