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Subject: Re: Post-match interview with GM Ilya Smirin at http://www.kasparov.com/

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 04:59:07 05/15/02

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On May 15, 2002 at 03:38:16, José Carlos wrote:

>On May 14, 2002 at 19:34:29, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>On May 14, 2002 at 19:26:17, martin fierz wrote:
>>
>>>On May 14, 2002 at 19:04:18, Chris Carson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 14, 2002 at 18:56:05, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 14, 2002 at 17:39:32, Chris Carson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Very nice interview.  My thanks to GM Smirin, he seemed to be very "open and
>>>>>>honest" with his assessment.  I think all of his comments are very telling and
>>>>>>the programmers and our forum should take note.  I found the follwoing points
>>>>>>very interesting (just fit my own interests):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1.  Computers seemed to avoid main lines.
>>>>>>2.  Having White is very important against a computer.
>>>>>>3.  Computers weak in closed positions and very strong in open positions.
>>>>>>4.  He found himself tired, even with the breaks and shorter time controls.
>>>[snipped back in]
>>>>>>5.  He would like a rematch.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>point 4 isn't correct according to the interview. Neither tired nor
>>>>>exhausted. That's your interpretation without any basis in the text.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Mogens
>>>>
>>>>As usual Mogen, you are wrong:
>>>>
>>>>"Well, even though we played only four games per week, which helped me to pull
>>>>myself together between the games, it wasn’t so easy psychologically. As a
>>>>result, I lost concentration a few times during the match and it cost me at
>>>>least 0.5 point (and it could be even more if the computer was more accurate!)!
>>>>It’s just not so simple to play chess when you know that you have to avoid
>>>>certain kind of positions, even if your intuition is telling you it’s
>>>>objectively correct to go for them! However, I think I managed to withstand the
>>>>pressure, and at the moment I’m full of energy and not tired at all!
>>>>"
>>>>
>>>>A loss of concentration is "tired" or "exhausted", that is a psychological fact.
>>>
>>>
>>>read his lips please... and look at the games.
>>>"it was not easy psychologically" is given as reason for the loss of
>>>concentration. not tired or exhausted. this is not the same.
>>>if you look at the games, you will also understand what he means - e.g. the
>>>aborted game junior-smirin, where smirin had an easy draw as black, and was
>>>probably thinking along the lines "this is an easy draw and these comps are weak
>>>in the ending anyway, so why don't i just move back and forth a bit, nothing can
>>>happen here". he lost his concentration in this game not because he was tired,
>>>but because he underestimated junior.
>>>i know you have your agenda with this tired thing... don't let it influence you
>>>too much :-)
>>
>>I do not have an agenda, although it is clear that you and Mogens do.  I am a
>>psychologist.  I have a PhD in psychology.  I specialize in "cognitive" and
>>"cognitive/behaviorism".  A loss of concentration is due to being tired,
>>fatigued or exhausted or stress by definition.
>>
>>I personally do not care if you do not agree with my "opinions" however this is
>>not just an opinion, but scientific fact.  If you just wish to argue, I do not
>>not choose to argue with you.  If yo wish to discuss ways to improve
>>concentration or reduce exhaustion or reduce psychological stress for humans,
>>then we can talk, but just passing off my statements as and "agenda" is not
>>worth my time.  I get no compensation in any manner from this and I resent you
>>saying I have some "agenda", I have never accused you of any such thing and I
>>deserver basic respect if you wish to communicate with me.
>
>  I always lose my concentration when I see a cute girl in front of me. Does it
>mean that seing cute girls cause fatigue?

It may cause increase heart rate, loss of blood to the brain, excitement and
eventual fatigue for some.  ;)

>  Just curious... :)
>
>  José C.



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