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Subject: Re: Feedback on Shredder 2

Author: Komputer Korner

Date: 07:14:15 07/26/98

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My review of Shredder 2 will be posted on the WCCR this week. The review is done
but I am just waiting for the results of a 10 game match with IM Tom ODonnell
who will play Shredder 2 tomorrow.
--
Komputer Korner



On July 26, 1998 at 09:04:27, Mark Young wrote:

>On July 26, 1998 at 08:52:14, Moritz Berger wrote:
>
>>On July 26, 1998 at 08:14:04, mike cooter wrote:
>>
>>>I know of its ranking on SSDF and the other list, but can someone provide me
>>>with some feedback on Shredder 2? Likes , dislikes, style of play, other
>>>features etc.
>>
>>likes:
>>- Crafty-like logfiles
>>- multiple variant mode
>>- analysis include/exclude
>>- native Windows 95/NT program with full auto232 support
>>- nice opening book (I found some interesting novelties in it)
>>- strong engine
>>- useable 2D board
>>- good EPD support
>>
>>
>>dislikes:
>>- F**%&! copy protection - sometimes wants original CD back multiple times
>>within a few hours even when I didn't even reboot my NT 4 machine
>>- hardware hungry (fast CPU) to maximize playing strength - the list of
>>tournaments on www.computerchess.de where Shredder scored better than e.g. Fritz
>>5 saw Shredder playing often on a Digital Alpha-PC/500+ Mhz.
>>At Blitz or speed chess Shredder gets shreddered by other programs and humans
>>alike if you don't have at least a very fast Pentium II machine.
>>- no opening book editor
>>- you cannot analyze entire games (i.e. overnight analysis, blundercheck)!!!
>>This is a HUGE drawback for me.
>>- no annotation or alternate lines inside a game possible
>>
>>
>>
>>Conclusion: If you have all other programs, Shredder is a nice to have but no
>>mandatory purchase. If you don't already own Rebel, Hiarcs or M-Chess (DOS) or
>>Fritz 5 + engines (Junior, Hiarcs) (Windows), go and get these programs first.
>>
>>Moritz
>
>I was thinking of getting Shredder 2 but it sounds like I should hold off even
>though I have the other programs. What about powerchess98, I was watching it
>play ferret and it won the the 2 games I seen it play at game 30 min.
>Powerchess98 was just running on a P 166 and Ferret on a alpha 533. Is this
>program really that strong?



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