Author: Uri Blass
Date: 03:02:29 05/16/02
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On May 16, 2002 at 03:25:58, Harald Faber wrote: >On May 15, 2002 at 07:29:12, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On May 15, 2002 at 01:41:49, Harald Faber wrote: >> >>>Again I do not get the point. You want to prove an opening line wrong by taking >>>this BLITZ game into account??? >>> >>>Sometimes...it is really helpful to take a longer time control. For example in >>>the line you posted above. On my slow (!) 600MHz Athlon Hiarcs has >>> >>>14...e5 with -0.62/9/41s, -0.37/10/1min06, +0.52/10/2min07 and changes to >>>14...f7-f5 after 5min17 (0.00/10), stays there at 0.00/11/9min56 and plays that >>>move at TOURNAMENT timce control after 11min10. >>> >>>I don't know whether this saves the day, but it is definitely of other quality >>>than your g/5... I call it SHIT and not test. Such games have no value of >>>anything concerning CHESS. >> >> >>I disagree >>chess is not only long time control and usually the better program in blitz is >>also better at longer time controls. > > >Give me proof. >And BTW, I was speaking of s.th. else. The best program in the ssdf Fritz is also best in blitz based on rating lists that I saw. In most of the cases if A is better than B in blitz it is also better than B in long time control based on rating lists that I see. > > >>Hiarcs8 has good results also in blitz based on posts of other people and if >>James walker does not get good results in blitz it may be productive to >>investigate the reason. >> >>It may be problem in the opening book >> >>Note that James walker also got bad results at G/60. > > >My point was not bad results in this message but to put in perspective that this >opening line has a different quality if you just let the program think for 5sec >or 5min. >Therefore I disagree with your point. CHESS is only long time control. >Imagine KNB<->K in human open, KNB has 2sec on the clock, K 1minute. Is this >position won or draw? See the difference? For real CHESS the position is won for >KNB, on the board, with 2sec on the clock, KNB will not mate within the 2sec so >this is draw. >You understand now? I understand your point but blitz is also chess. A lot of humans play blitz and time is part of the game. Uri
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