Author: James T. Walker
Date: 07:50:23 05/16/02
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On May 16, 2002 at 06:02:29, Uri Blass wrote: >On May 16, 2002 at 03:25:58, Harald Faber wrote: > >>On May 15, 2002 at 07:29:12, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On May 15, 2002 at 01:41:49, Harald Faber wrote: >>> >>>>Again I do not get the point. You want to prove an opening line wrong by taking >>>>this BLITZ game into account??? >>>> >>>>Sometimes...it is really helpful to take a longer time control. For example in >>>>the line you posted above. On my slow (!) 600MHz Athlon Hiarcs has >>>> >>>>14...e5 with -0.62/9/41s, -0.37/10/1min06, +0.52/10/2min07 and changes to >>>>14...f7-f5 after 5min17 (0.00/10), stays there at 0.00/11/9min56 and plays that >>>>move at TOURNAMENT timce control after 11min10. >>>> >>>>I don't know whether this saves the day, but it is definitely of other quality >>>>than your g/5... I call it SHIT and not test. Such games have no value of >>>>anything concerning CHESS. >>> >>> >>>I disagree >>>chess is not only long time control and usually the better program in blitz is >>>also better at longer time controls. >> >> >>Give me proof. >>And BTW, I was speaking of s.th. else. > >The best program in the ssdf Fritz is also best in blitz based on rating lists >that I saw. > >In most of the cases if A is better than B in blitz it is also better than B in >long time control based on rating lists that I see. > > > >> >> >>>Hiarcs8 has good results also in blitz based on posts of other people and if >>>James walker does not get good results in blitz it may be productive to >>>investigate the reason. >>> >>>It may be problem in the opening book >>> >>>Note that James walker also got bad results at G/60. >> >> >>My point was not bad results in this message but to put in perspective that this >>opening line has a different quality if you just let the program think for 5sec >>or 5min. >>Therefore I disagree with your point. CHESS is only long time control. >>Imagine KNB<->K in human open, KNB has 2sec on the clock, K 1minute. Is this >>position won or draw? See the difference? For real CHESS the position is won for >>KNB, on the board, with 2sec on the clock, KNB will not mate within the 2sec so >>this is draw. >>You understand now? > >I understand your point but blitz is also chess. >A lot of humans play blitz and time is part of the game. > >Uri I agree Uri. Go to the Chess Servers where most of the Chess played in the world today is happening. Look at which time controls are the most popular. Games at 40/2 are not being played even in the top chess tournaments. The year is 2002 not 1958. Jim
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