Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 16:43:24 05/16/02
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On May 16, 2002 at 11:28:17, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On May 16, 2002 at 06:22:48, leonid wrote: > >>On May 15, 2002 at 18:50:39, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On May 15, 2002 at 18:39:54, leonid wrote: >>> >>>>On May 15, 2002 at 17:41:07, Terry McCracken wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 11, 2002 at 11:57:34, leonid wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>>Recently I read a lot of discussion about new coming AMD's 64 bits chip. But >>>>>>what is the situation with last Intel's 64 bits chip? Where he is now? Do >>>>>>somebody really use this chip? >>>>>> >>>>>>Cheers, >>>>>>Leonid. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>There bloody expencive! >>>>> >>>>>Here's a link to IBM. >>>>> >>>>>http://commerce.www.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=2072508&smrfnbr=2072488&cntrfnbr=107824&cgmenbr=24188&cntry=840&lang=en_US&scrfnbr=126 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>You may have to copy and paste this link!;) >>>> >>>>Thanks for link! >>>> >>>>To my surprise Intel 64 bits chip is real and can be bought in few computers. It >>>>is true that price look like too high for me (15000 - 16000$), when its Mhz is >>>>too low. Still only 800 Mhz. Will be nice to see some miracle from Intel in >>>>order to push price down and Mhz up. >>>> >>>>Leonid. >>> >>>This is first generation IA64 from intel at 800Mhz. >>> >>>It is a very primitive CPU IMHO compared to their new chip, also >>>this 800Mhz thing is very cheap compared to the new 1.2Ghz chip, >>>considering the market they target at. >> >>You want to say that last chip is even more expensive? So, no hope to have it! >> >>Still it could be that in the next few years Intel will find its way to produce >>some accessible chip. I do remember that first and slow Pentium was also >>expensive. >> >>Leonid. > >please do not compare mass market P5 cpu which was made to produce as >many as possible from them for a cheap price having a decent performance, >with a supercomputer chip where nothing gets sacraficed in order to >get a better performance. > >it's like a small car versus a formula 1 car. > >Also new generation formula 1 cars will be out of my budget, i'm >pretty sure of that. > >Apart from that, how to drive with it on the normal road? I don't follow this line of reasoning. _all_ "chips" are made with one purpose in mind: "sell as many as possible". You don't design a chip for a very small market, and hope to make any money for it. That is why the Cray didn't use a "chip" at all. You design a chip so that the R&D cost can be amortized over a bunch of individual chip sales to drive the cost down. IE chips are definitely "mass market" items. Not one-off things... > > >> >>>>>Terry
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