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Subject: Re: Endgameposition - here are Tablebases stronger :)

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 05:44:24 05/17/02

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On May 16, 2002 at 23:47:50, Eduard Nemeth wrote:

  Proces 1 starting initialisation!
  Proces 1 starting SearchSMP!
Took 5.73 seconds to start all 1 other processes
Process 1: engineflags=0 msk=1
process 0: engineflags = 0 denktime=10000000 maxtime=10000000
00:00 0 0 5 (0) 1 3.572 Ra5xa3
00:00 0 0 20 (0) 1 6.054 Ra5xb5 Rb1-f1 Kf4-e5
00:00 0 0 95 (0) 2 6.054 Ra5xb5 Rb1-f1 Kf4-e5
00:00 0 0 220 (0) 3 6.054 Ra5xb5 Rb1-f1 Kf4-e5
00:00 0 0 1822 (647) 4 7.624 Ra5xb5 Rb1-e1 Ra8xa3 Kc4-d4
00:01 0 0 5865 (2201) 5 7.769 Ra5xb5 Rb1-f1 Kf4-e5 Rf1-a1 Ra8xa3 Ra1-e1
00:04 0 0 23526 (13360) 6 8.149 Ra5xb5 Rb1-f1 Kf4-e5 Rf1-f2 Rb5-c5 Kc4-b4 Rc5-a5
 Rf2-e2 Ra5xa3
00:14 0 0 86712 (40579) 7 8.269 Ra5xb5 a3-a2 Ra8-a4 Kc4-c3 Rb5-c5 Kc3-b3 Ra4xa2
Rb1-f1 Kf4-e3
00:23 0 0 149619 (68794) 8 8.384 Ra5xb5 a3-a2 Rb5-b4 Kc4-c5 Kf4-e5 Rb1-e1 Rb4-b2
 Kc5-c6 Ra8-c8 Kc6-d7 Rb2xa2
00:37 0 0 314648 (134305) 9 MATE40 Ra5xb5 Rb1-f1 Kf4-e5 Rf1-f3 Ra8xa3 Rf3-b3 Rb5
-c5 Kc4-d3 Rc5-c2 Rb3xa3



>Here you can see the advanced from tablebases.
>
>(german: In der folgenden Stellung zeigt sich der Vorteil der TBs)
>
>
>[D]R7/8/8/Rn6/2k1PK2/p7/8/1r6 w - - 0 1
>
>After Rxb5 game is end!
>
>(german: Der Einschlag Rxb5 entscheidet mit den Tablebases sofort. Die Programme
>sind nur mit den Tablebases in der Lage so Schach zus spielen, oder gibt es auch
>eine Ausnahme ohne die TBs?
>
>
>
>Yace 0.99.56 under Arena:
>
>without TBs:
>
>Yace:
>T1 00:00 1,18 Txb5 Txb5 Txa3 Th5 Ta8 Th4 Kf5 Th5 Kg4 Th1 Td8
>T1 00:00 1,42 Tc8 Kd4
>T1 00:00 1,43 Td8
>T2 00:00 1,23 Td8 Te1
>T2+ 00:00 1,24 Tc8 Kb4 Txb5 Ka4
>T2 00:00 1,60 Tc8 Kd4 Ta4 Kd3 e5
>T3 00:00 1,41 Tc8 Kd3 Ke5 Ke3
>T4 00:00 1,51 Tc8 Kd4 Ta4 Kd3 Tc5 Ke2 Td5
>T5 00:00 1,50 Tc8 Kd4 Ta4 Kd3 Tc5 Ke2 Tc2 Kd3 Tac4
>T6 00:00 1,48 Tc8 Kd4 Ta4 Kd3 Tc5 Tb2 Td5 Kc3 e5 a2 e6
>T7 00:01 1,60 Tc8 Kd4 Ta4 Kd3 e5 Tf1 Kg5 Ke2 e6 Tg1 Kf6 Tf1 Ke7 Te1
>T8 00:02 1,72 Tc8 Kd4 Ta4 Kd3 e5 Tf1 Kg5 Ke3 e6 Tg1 Kf6 Tf1 Ke7 Te1 Td8
>T9 00:06 1,78 Tc8 Kd4 Ta4 Kd3 e5 Th1 Kg5 Ke3 e6 Th7 Kf6 Tb7
>T10 00:15 1,81 Tc8 Kd4 Ta4 Kd3 e5 Th1 Kg5 Ke3 e6 Th7 Tb8 Tg7 Kf6 Ta7
>T11 01:05 1,80 Tc8 Kd4 Ta4 Kd3 e5 Th1 Ta5 Tf1 Kg4 Tg1 Kh5 Ta1 e6 Th1 Kg6 Tg1 Kh6
>
>with Tbs:
>
>Yace:
>T1 00:00 1,04 Txb5 Txb5 Txa3
>T1 00:00 1,07 Txa3 Sxa3 Txa3
>T1 00:00 1,42 Tc8 Kd4
>T1 00:00 1,43 Td8
>T2 00:00 1,23 Td8 Te1
>T2+ 00:00 1,24 Tc8 Kb4 Txb5 Ka4
>T2 00:00 1,60 Tc8 Kd4 Ta4 Kd3 e5
>T3 00:00 1,41 Tc8 Kd3 Ke5 Ke3
>T4 00:00 1,51 Tc8 Kd4 Ta4 Kd3 Tc5 Ke2 Td5
>T4+ 00:00 1,52 Txa3 Kd4 Td8 Kc4
>T4+ 00:00 1,81 Txa3 Kd4 Td8 Kc4
>T4+ 00:00 2,81 Txa3 Tf1 Tf3 Txf3 Kxf3 Sd4 Kg3 Se2 Kh3
>T4 00:00 3,01 Txa3 Tf1 Tf3 Txf3 Kxf3 Sd4 Kf4 Kc5
>T5 00:00 3,18 Txa3 Tf1 Tf3 Te1 Tc8 Kd4 Td8 Kc5 Tfd3 Te2
>T6 00:00 3,21 Txa3 Tf1 Ke5 Te1 Tc8 Kb4 Taa8 Sc3
>T6+ 00:00 3,22 Txb5 Tf1 Ke5 Tg1 Tba5 Kb3
>T6+ 00:00 3,58 Txb5 Tf1 Ke5 Tg1 Tba5 Kb3
>T6+ 00:00 4,58 Txb5 Tf1 Ke5 Tg1 Tba5 Tf1
>T6 00:00 4,91 Txb5 Tf1 Ke5 Th1 Td5 Th5 Kd6 Th6 Kd7 Th3
>T7 00:00 4,97 Txb5 Tf1 Ke5 Th1 Tb7 Th5 Ke6 Th6 Kf5 Th3 e5
>T8+ 00:00 5,37 Txb5 Tf1 Ke5 Th1 Tba5 Kb4 Txa3 Kc4
>T8+ 00:00 6,37 Txb5 Tf1 Ke5 Th1 Ta4 Kd3 Txa3 Ke2 Tba5 Th5 Ke6 Th6 Ke7 Tf6
>T8 00:01 6,52 Txb5 Tf1 Ke5 Tf3 Txa3 Tf8 Td5 Te8 Kf4 Tf8 Ke3 Tf6
>T9 00:03 6,72 Txb5 Tf1 Ke5 Te1 Ta4 Kd3 Txa3 Kc4 Tb1 Te2 Tc1 Kb5
>T10 00:15 6,76 Txb5 Tf1 Ke5 Ta1 Txa3 Te1
>T11+ 00:18 7,16 Txb5 Tf1 Ke5 a2 Txa2 Te1 Tb1 Te3 Tc2 Tc3 Txc3 Kxc3 Ta1 Kd3 Tc1
>Ke3
>T11 00:25 7,16 Txb5 Tf1 Ke5 Th1 Ta4 Kd3 Txa3 Kc2 Tb2 Kc1 Tb5 Th5 Kd4 Txb5 e5
>T12+ 00:29 7,56 Txb5 Tf1 Ke5 Tf5 exf5 Kd3
>T12+ 00:30 8,56 Txb5 Tf1 Ke5 Tf8 Txf8 a2 Ta5 Kc3
>
>
>
>
>Analysis by Fritz 7, with Tbs:
>
>1.Txb5 Tf1+ 2.Ke5 Tf8 3.Txa3 Te8+ 4.Kf4 Txe4+ 5.Kxe4 Kxb5 6.Tc3 Kb4
>+- (6.03) Tiefe: 10/22 00:00:03 737kN, tb=115
>1.Txb5 Tf1+ 2.Ke5 Tf8 3.Txa3 Te8+ 4.Kd6 Td8+ 5.Ke7 Th8 6.Tba5 Th7+ 7.Kf6
>+- (6.22) Tiefe: 11/22 00:00:05 1215kN, tb=219
>
>now without TBs:
>
>
>Analysis by Fritz 7:
>
>1.Tc8+ Kd4 2.Ta4+ Kd3 3.e5 Th1 4.Kg5 Tg1+ 5.Kf6
>+- (2.69) Tiefe: 15/33 00:03:34 73227kN
>1.Tc8+ Kd4 2.Ta4+ Kd3 3.e5 Th1 4.Kg5 Tg1+ 5.Kf6
>+- (2.91) Tiefe: 16/36 00:08:30 172755kN
>
>Eduard



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