Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 12:18:40 05/17/02
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On May 16, 2002 at 19:43:24, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 16, 2002 at 11:28:17, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On May 16, 2002 at 06:22:48, leonid wrote: >> >>>On May 15, 2002 at 18:50:39, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On May 15, 2002 at 18:39:54, leonid wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 15, 2002 at 17:41:07, Terry McCracken wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 11, 2002 at 11:57:34, leonid wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Recently I read a lot of discussion about new coming AMD's 64 bits chip. But >>>>>>>what is the situation with last Intel's 64 bits chip? Where he is now? Do >>>>>>>somebody really use this chip? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Cheers, >>>>>>>Leonid. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>There bloody expencive! >>>>>> >>>>>>Here's a link to IBM. >>>>>> >>>>>>http://commerce.www.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=2072508&smrfnbr=2072488&cntrfnbr=107824&cgmenbr=24188&cntry=840&lang=en_US&scrfnbr=126 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>You may have to copy and paste this link!;) >>>>> >>>>>Thanks for link! >>>>> >>>>>To my surprise Intel 64 bits chip is real and can be bought in few computers. It >>>>>is true that price look like too high for me (15000 - 16000$), when its Mhz is >>>>>too low. Still only 800 Mhz. Will be nice to see some miracle from Intel in >>>>>order to push price down and Mhz up. >>>>> >>>>>Leonid. >>>> >>>>This is first generation IA64 from intel at 800Mhz. >>>> >>>>It is a very primitive CPU IMHO compared to their new chip, also >>>>this 800Mhz thing is very cheap compared to the new 1.2Ghz chip, >>>>considering the market they target at. >>> >>>You want to say that last chip is even more expensive? So, no hope to have it! >>> >>>Still it could be that in the next few years Intel will find its way to produce >>>some accessible chip. I do remember that first and slow Pentium was also >>>expensive. >>> >>>Leonid. >> >>please do not compare mass market P5 cpu which was made to produce as >>many as possible from them for a cheap price having a decent performance, >>with a supercomputer chip where nothing gets sacraficed in order to >>get a better performance. >> >>it's like a small car versus a formula 1 car. >> >>Also new generation formula 1 cars will be out of my budget, i'm >>pretty sure of that. >> >>Apart from that, how to drive with it on the normal road? > > >I don't follow this line of reasoning. _all_ "chips" are made with one Yeah right because you can afford these chips :) >purpose in mind: "sell as many as possible". You don't design a chip for >a very small market, and hope to make any money for it. That is why the Cray >didn't use a "chip" at all. You design a chip so that the R&D cost can be >amortized over a bunch of individual chip sales to drive the cost down. IE >chips are definitely "mass market" items. Not one-off things... A machine that's getting sold for around $20000 for a 2 processor version, that's a bit out of my range. Probably is for most persons. Most can't even afford even a dual intel 2.53Ghz Xeon thing. Lucky that it is hell slower than a dual MP 1.6Ghz (MP1900) which you can buy here now in the shops for half of the price of the above thing. A machine in the price range up to $2500 i consider expensive but that is for some of us possible. A machine price range $20000 for just 2 processor 1.2Ghz (where > 1.6Ghz is the standard now) is just too expensive. > > >> >> >>> >>>>>>Terry
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