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Subject: Re: A very difficult tactical position solved by chessmaster 8000(Test)

Author: ALI MIRAFZALI

Date: 13:41:08 05/17/02

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On May 17, 2002 at 16:36:19, Roy Eassa wrote:

>On May 17, 2002 at 16:34:33, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>
>>On May 17, 2002 at 16:28:22, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>
>>>On May 17, 2002 at 15:58:53, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>>>
>>>>The following position happened in the game GM Cifuentes vs IM Zvjaginsev
>>>>(1995)
>>>>[D]3rr1k1/1b1q1p1p/p2b1npB/2pP4/1p2n3/4N1P1/PPQ1NPBP/R2R2K1 b
>>>>here the GM resigned after 24...Nxf2!! 25.Kxf2 Rxe3!! 26.Bxe3 Ng4+ 27.Kf3 Nxh2+
>>>>28.Kf2 Ng4+ 29.Kf3 Qe6! 30.Bf4 Re8! 31.Qc4 Qe3! 32.Bxe3 Rxe3+ 33.Kxg4 Bc8!
>>>>34.Kg5 h6+! 35.Kxh6 Re5!
>>>>There are many alternative defences all of which fail .On a 700 MHz PC
>>>>it takes CM8000 3 minutes and one second to see the two peice sacrafice.
>>>>Time:3:01      Depth :10   Score :0.34     Positions:13571609
>>>>Moves:Nxf2 Kxf2 Rxe3 Bxe3 Ng4+ Kf3 Nxh2+ Kf2 Ng4+ Kf3 Qe6 Bf4 Bxd5+
>>>>Really CM considers this at ply 8 then changes its mind to Ng4 at ply9 and
>>>>finally finds 24...Nxf2!! at ply 10 at 3:01 and stickes to it.
>>>>Many programs have a hard time finding this for example my program Hiarcs 3
>>>>(from 1994) does not see this after even a very long think.My guess is that
>>>>the chessbase programs wont do good in this position.Please indicate your
>>>>result.
>>>
>>>
>>>Some analysis:
>>>
>>>1...Nxf2! 2.Kxf2 Rxe3 3.Bxe3?
>>>
>>>   [3.Kxe3 Ng4+ 4.Kd2 Nxh6 5.Kc1 Qe7 =+]
>>>
>>>3...Ng4+ 4.Kf3 Nxh2+ 5.Kf2 Ng4+ 6.Kf3 Qe6 7.Bf4
>>>
>>>   [7.Bc1 h5! 8.Nf4
>>>      (8.Qe4 Qxe4+ 9.Kxe4 Nf2+ -+)
>>>    8...Bxf4 9.gxf4 Rxd5 10.Kg3 h4+ 11.Kxh4 Ne3-+]
>>>
>>>   [7.Bg5 f5 8.Qd3 c4 9.Qd4
>>>      (9.Qxc4 Bf4! 10.Bxf4 Rxd5 mates)
>>>    9...Bc5! 10.Nf4
>>>       (10.Qxc5? Qe4 is mate)
>>>    10...Bxd5+ 11.Nxd5 Rxd5 -+]
>>>
>>>7...Re8 8.Qc4 Qe3+! forces mate: 9.Bxe3 Rxe3+ 10.Kxg4 Bc8+ 11.Kg5 h6+ 12.Kxh6
>>>Re5 and mate next
>>Roy
>>what program are you useing?
>
>
>I analyzed using myself and with the help of Fritz 6.  (Going up and down
>branches manually...)  Was not trying to get the computer to solve the problem,
>only to help me analyze to see the truth of the position as well as possible in
>limited time.
I lost my Fritz6 CD some time ago so I cant campare Chessmaster with fritz here
but I remmeber from many tests that fritz6 (due to the NULL MOVE pruning does
not see many sacrificial lines.Does it come with the CM 8000 line here?



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