Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 21:08:00 05/17/02
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On May 17, 2002 at 15:18:40, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On May 16, 2002 at 19:43:24, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On May 16, 2002 at 11:28:17, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On May 16, 2002 at 06:22:48, leonid wrote: >>> >>>>On May 15, 2002 at 18:50:39, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 15, 2002 at 18:39:54, leonid wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 15, 2002 at 17:41:07, Terry McCracken wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 11, 2002 at 11:57:34, leonid wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Recently I read a lot of discussion about new coming AMD's 64 bits chip. But >>>>>>>>what is the situation with last Intel's 64 bits chip? Where he is now? Do >>>>>>>>somebody really use this chip? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Cheers, >>>>>>>>Leonid. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>There bloody expencive! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Here's a link to IBM. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://commerce.www.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=2072508&smrfnbr=2072488&cntrfnbr=107824&cgmenbr=24188&cntry=840&lang=en_US&scrfnbr=126 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>You may have to copy and paste this link!;) >>>>>> >>>>>>Thanks for link! >>>>>> >>>>>>To my surprise Intel 64 bits chip is real and can be bought in few computers. It >>>>>>is true that price look like too high for me (15000 - 16000$), when its Mhz is >>>>>>too low. Still only 800 Mhz. Will be nice to see some miracle from Intel in >>>>>>order to push price down and Mhz up. >>>>>> >>>>>>Leonid. >>>>> >>>>>This is first generation IA64 from intel at 800Mhz. >>>>> >>>>>It is a very primitive CPU IMHO compared to their new chip, also >>>>>this 800Mhz thing is very cheap compared to the new 1.2Ghz chip, >>>>>considering the market they target at. >>>> >>>>You want to say that last chip is even more expensive? So, no hope to have it! >>>> >>>>Still it could be that in the next few years Intel will find its way to produce >>>>some accessible chip. I do remember that first and slow Pentium was also >>>>expensive. >>>> >>>>Leonid. >>> >>>please do not compare mass market P5 cpu which was made to produce as >>>many as possible from them for a cheap price having a decent performance, >>>with a supercomputer chip where nothing gets sacraficed in order to >>>get a better performance. >>> >>>it's like a small car versus a formula 1 car. >>> >>>Also new generation formula 1 cars will be out of my budget, i'm >>>pretty sure of that. >>> >>>Apart from that, how to drive with it on the normal road? >> >> >>I don't follow this line of reasoning. _all_ "chips" are made with one > >Yeah right because you can afford these chips :) > >>purpose in mind: "sell as many as possible". You don't design a chip for >>a very small market, and hope to make any money for it. That is why the Cray >>didn't use a "chip" at all. You design a chip so that the R&D cost can be >>amortized over a bunch of individual chip sales to drive the cost down. IE >>chips are definitely "mass market" items. Not one-off things... > >A machine that's getting sold for around $20000 for a 2 processor version, >that's a bit out of my range. > >Probably is for most persons. The same thing was said when the 80386 came out and everyone was running 286's... > >Most can't even afford even a dual intel 2.53Ghz Xeon thing. Lucky >that it is hell slower than a dual MP 1.6Ghz (MP1900) which you can >buy here now in the shops for half of the price of the above thing. > >A machine in the price range up to $2500 i consider expensive but >that is for some of us possible. > >A machine price range $20000 for just 2 processor 1.2Ghz (where > 1.6Ghz >is the standard now) is just too expensive. > Just wait a few more years. 64 bit machines will be at the price point of 32 bit machines today, and you will be saying "who needs these new expensive 128 bit cpus?" :) >> >> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>Terry
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