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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 8 vs Fritz 7 @ Very L O N G Time Control !

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 23:23:18 05/17/02

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On May 17, 2002 at 15:11:58, Ian Aston wrote:

>On May 17, 2002 at 13:15:19, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On May 17, 2002 at 12:24:27, Brian Katz wrote:
>>
>>>On May 16, 2002 at 19:03:49, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 16, 2002 at 19:00:52, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>These 6 games were played with Nimzo8.ctg and 64 MB hashtable. Average time
>>>>>control 4 minutes per move. Final score 3.5 to 2.5 in favor of Hiarcs 8. I would
>>>>>like to continue , but these games are too l o n g.
>>>>>
>>>>>I would like to know if other people can get better results using other Opening
>>>>>Books? Even at shorter time control.
>>>>
>>>>PS: I also have Blitz games if you need to compare them later.
>>>>
>>>>Pichard.
>>>
>>>I recently ran an engine tournament on my 350 MHz Pent II.
>>>Time control 1/1 hash tables set at 8. I have 384 SD RAM.
>>>I thought Hiarcs would excel at the longer time controls rather than the shorter
>>>time controls. This was with the Hiarcs 8 using the CD book. This was before I
>>>downloaded the new upgrade. Fritz 7 used it's own book of course.
>>>I was quite suprised with these results.
>>>
>>>game 1-1 Eatontown  2002
>>>
>>>	                 1	 2	 3	 4	 5
>>>1	Hiarcs 8	****	0½1½	½11½	1111	110½   11.5/16
>>>2	Shredder 6.02	1½0½	****	0100	001½	1111	8.5/16
>>>3	Shredder 6	½00½	1011	****	½½½1	0010	7.5/16
>>>4	Fritz 7	        0000	110½	½½½0	****	1101	7.0/16
>>>5	Crafty 18.14	001½	0000	1101	0010	****	5.5/16
>>>
>>>
>>>In longer time controls Fritz 7 seems to come out quite a bit ahead of Hiarcs 8.
>>>Too soon to tell. Any similar results out there?
>>
>>I have not Hiarcs8 but I am not surprised because Hiarcs was also in the past
>>relatively better in blitz.
>>
>>I see no reason to expect Hiarcs to do better at longer time control.
>>It has not special search rules for long time control or special evaluation to
>>know things that cannot be discovered by search(for example fortress positions).
>>
>>Uri
>
>On the other hand, the programmer says that the Hiarcs 8 search is capable of
>reaching 1-3 iterations deeper than Hiarcs 7.32. Surely this must count for
>something at longer time controls.

I do not see why only at long time control.
It should help at all time controls.

Uri



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