Author: Marc van Hal
Date: 12:44:39 05/18/02
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On May 18, 2002 at 11:49:37, Russell Reagan wrote: >On May 18, 2002 at 08:26:50, Marc van Hal wrote: > >>To my point of vieuw program 1 does not have enough positional knowledge neither >>does program 2 >>If the positional learning should work corectly program1 should in time easely >>win against program2 but also against other programs. >>Otherwise the statement of positional leaning is false! >>Regards Marc van Hal > >Sorry, I think you're wrong. For example, if my dad teaches me how to play chess >when I'm 10 years old, and he's not very good himself, eventually I will develop >strategies (learning!) and reach a level of skill where I can beat him >regularly, even if I only play him and no one else for say, 3 years. > >After that, by your statements above, you are asserting that I should be able to >go out and beat anyone else that I play, even though I myself am really only at >a novice level myself after becomming proficient at beating my dad. > >So your statement "If the positional learning should work corectly program1 >should in time easely win against program2 but also against other programs." is >false, and therefore so is your conclusion. If program2 has a playing strength >of about 800 ELO, and program1 eventually "learns" and is able to beat program2 >100% of the time, that IN NO WAY means that program1 should be able to beat >other programs. All it means is that program1 can beat program2 now. You didn't >consider the case where program2 is the worst program in the entire world. After >program1 gets better than program2, it's only the second worst program in the >world, and it could still lose 100% of it's games to every other computer >program it ever played against. > >Russell I ment you should remember my previous post about position learning Also what positional knowledge realy is If you postional understanding becomes better this works against everyone This should not be compared with if you see the weaknes of your oponent, and take advantage of that. The chance that your positional understanding becomes beter only would work if someone did teach you this,and you improved it from there. I forgot to mention that if program1 has positionallearning and program2 does not And program1 only has 1 opening it can win against program2 It eventualy everytime wil play this opening and will win all games (Without in fact learning anything which should be compared with taking advantage of the weaknes of the oponent and not with position learning.) Regards Marc If program2 does not have postion and book learning.
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