Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 17:22:56 05/18/02
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On May 18, 2002 at 14:19:19, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On May 18, 2002 at 12:31:20, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >ok buying a dual MP, is not out of reach. >If you can spent $2000 for a stupid computer. > >Let's take some components together: > >i take a random site i see from pricewatch: www.monarchcomputer.com > 2 x mp1900 = 2 x $198 = 396$ > tyan tiger S2460 = 168$ > 2 x 256 reg corsair = 170$ > dvd player = 59$ > case + 430 watts enermx = 168$ > seagate barracuda4 40GB = 89$ > 2 x Zalman CNPS5500-ALCU = 110$ > floppy 1.44 = 14$ > >if you would want a sound card, one of the better is: > soundcard live 5.1 = 45$ > >this company only seems to have expensive nic cards. My own >very well working 100mbit nic (works everywhere, linux, windows, >whereas the expensive 'ethernet express' is not so easy to get >to work in win2000) i got around around the corner for $12. > >together with that $12 nic card the total >price of this system is: 1231$ You and I and 10% of the CCC member can build a system like this, but for the rest 90% of the CCC members, they simply don't want to bother or have the time and patience to build one. Now If you compare this system with the one that you recommended from monarch, without the Keyboard and speakers, it is NOT such a great deal at all. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=TSA-21-10AX http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=90753&Category_Code=GAMING And remember this was meant for people looking for a great deal NOT for the few of us that like to assemble our own computers. Pichard. >Now all you need is a graphics card. I would go for a cheap $25 >card, others go for a fast and expensive geforce. > >for $15 they put the system together for you and i didn't even >take cheapest offers here. > >Don't know what shipping machine to you costs in USA, probably >pretty cheap too. > >Regrettably only in europe we don't have such big competition >as in the USA. > >I bet you can get the above system for similar prices in many >stores in the US. > >>On May 18, 2002 at 10:18:46, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On May 18, 2002 at 08:41:50, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>>On May 18, 2002 at 08:15:27, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 17, 2002 at 21:32:45, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>>> >>>>>sure you can compare it for computerchess. >>>>> >>>>>the XP2100 is faster than the XP2000! >>>> >>>>Yes I understand that for Chess the speed of the processor count for 98%, but >>>>you don't get the performance of a Ferrari Testarosa by simply buying a Ferrari >>>>engine and mount it on your $45,000 car. >>> >>>cars are different from computers. for computerchess the processor is >>>like 95% of the performance. Nowadays fast memory also is a 5% of the speed >>>or so. >> >>The same for a car the engine give almost 95% of the performance of a car, but >>if you don't get your leather seat, automatic gadgets and good sound system, a >>nice looking frame = design, then you will be disatisfied a few days later and >>for the rest as long as you drive it. Therefore, if you want a good quality >>equipment, one part is not equal to the total of all the parts being of good >>quality. >> >>>Video speed doesn't count simply. Even the most idiotic $25 card is >>>fast enough. >> >>Again it is NOT just Speed that matter, but quality of the peripherals >> >>> >>>Sound chip doesn't count. >>> >>>and so on. in short the only interesting thing is the speed of the >>>processor, only followed at a huge distance by memory speed. >>> >>>Also your machine is a single cpu machine, so it's not even a ferrari, >>>it's a nissan micra at most. >>> >>>A real machine is a dual K7 MP1900 or MP2000 machine!! >> >>>Best regards, >>>Vincent >> >>Also we are NOT talking any longer of a great deal for what you are paying for, >>since a dual MP2000 is out of the reach for 75% of us, and even if you can >>afford it, the benefit that you are getting from a Dual MP mobo is less than 50 >>points from what I posted. >> >>> >>>>Pichard. >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Note i never buy complete systems i always buy parts >>>>>and put them together just hours before world champs... >>>>>...each 2 years. This year i play with nearly same machine! >>>>> >>>>>>On May 17, 2002 at 20:42:36, Chessfun wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 17, 2002 at 20:35:48, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=V133-1062 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Yes. >>>>>>>http://www.asseenontvpc.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>>Sorry you can NOT compare the quality of the peripherals of that computer to the >>>>>>one that I mentioned, but here is one that have low quality components similar >>>>>>to the one that you posted, even cheaper. >>>>>> >>>>>>http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=TSA-21-10AX
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