Author: Terry Ripple
Date: 19:15:13 05/18/02
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On May 18, 2002 at 16:31:33, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>On May 18, 2002 at 16:17:42, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>On May 18, 2002 at 14:43:34, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On May 18, 2002 at 14:17:31, Peter Hegger wrote:
>>>
>>>that's not true this TPR. Gurevich is much weaker in
>>>rapid chess than his FIDE rating indicates.
>>>
>>>He's more like 2441 in rapid or so. I can kick him there namely
>>>too.
>
>Gurevich is a well known 'time trouble' player. Someone who needs
>all of his time. He is analytically very strong. His ECO analysis
>are pretty good for example. Usually GMs just deliver some idiotic
>analysis '1000 within a day' lines. But Gurevich did his ECO analysis
>job very good. I was impressed to see that strategically it was all
>very sound analysis.
>
>I remember a rook endgame Gurevich - Diepeveen.
>It was a blitz game for big money. For me that is. Gurevich
>didn't even came into the statistics, but it was a half round
>robin group.
>
> Gurevich KRP 40 seconds left for the rest of the game
> Diepeveen KRPP 12 seconds left for the game.
>
>A move or 23 later:
>
> KRP versus KR my time: 6.xx seconds. Gurevich: 21 seconds left.
>
>He resigned there because the remaining moves were pretty
>easy to make and with nearly 4 moves a second he already
>had his suspicions who was going to win :)
>
>This guy completely panics in time trouble.
>
>What i saw were not too bad set up positions from Gurevich
>versus junior with positions he would blindfolded draw or win,
>but not when having 20 minutes or less for the entire game left.
>
>> Looking at the games, I think you're right here Vincent.
>> In the 1st game Gurevich was slightly better but seemed to loose
>> all interest in activity and space and just drifted into a lost ending.
>> Very untypical for a player of his 40/2 rating. Then he just got
>> heavily outplayed in the 2nd game. In the 3rd Gurevich was simply a
>> piece up and managed to make a draw out of it. In today's 4th round
>> he lost a levelled ending from weak play. He seemed to have left his
>> technique in some restaurant or so...
>>
>> Sune
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>With a 3.5-.5 score against a 2641 FIDE player this has to be the best comp.
>>>>performance yet at G/60.
>>>>There are obvious reasons though to think that this performance is an anomoly
>>>>rather than a bona fide representation of juniors strength.
>>>>1) It was a short match (4 games) with to small a sampling.
>>>>2) Junior's score against other top GM's at G/60, although very good, has never
>>>>approached this level.
>>>>3)The GM was not at his peak physical or mental level: this is moot, but after
>>>>watching M. Gurevich's level of play I think he was not at his best. This
>>>>especially, after he was unable to put Junior away in game three in a won
>>>>ending.
>>>>
>>>>Whatever the reasons, it's still a fine performance and something I'm sure we'll
>>>>see lots more of in the future as programs inexorably march on to total
>>>>domination of the game of chess.
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Peter
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Don't the statements "too few games to show any proof who really is the better"-
and you need 200 to 300 games or more" also hold true for humans vr compters,
and humans vr humans? These statements are presented on this forum all the time
when someone shows their scores of computer vrs computer tournaments and so i
see no difference in this case!
Regards,
Terry
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