Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 20:44:35 05/19/02
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On May 19, 2002 at 15:43:59, Torstein Hall wrote:
>On May 19, 2002 at 11:49:18, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On May 19, 2002 at 02:24:13, pavel wrote:
>>
>>>On May 19, 2002 at 02:16:39, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 18, 2002 at 23:24:53, pavel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 18, 2002 at 18:47:31, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>With pleasure i announce the results of
>>>>>>gcc 3.1 versus microsoft visual c++ 6.0
>>>>>>sp4 processor pack.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Till recently nothing kicked it at the K7, except
>>>>>>intel c++ 5.01 (but newer editions of intel were way
>>>>>>way slower than msvc).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>For DIEP gcc 3.1 is about 5% faster than msvc is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Note that msvc 6.0 sp4 + processor pack is about
>>>>>>2% faster than any other msvc version is for me
>>>>>>(at least what everyone can get somehow in the
>>>>>>shop + download). it's 2% faster than msvc 7.0 NET
>>>>>>for example or msvc 6.0 sp5 procpack, because
>>>>>>it seems the optimizations turned on in the processor
>>>>>>pack for msvc 6 sp4 are not working for other service
>>>>>>packs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Now a FREE compiler is faster, which is pretty shocking!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Time to compiler my GUI for linux!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>What makes you think the guys at MS makes MSVC for Chess Programs?
>>>>>Speed is only important in Chess Programs (or similar programs thats speed
>>>>>dependend).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sure, they added speed optimization only for chess programmers, and anyway who
>>>>cares about chess programs?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In speed maybe other compilers are better, but what makes the differance is the
>>>>>overall performance and features.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>What makes the difference is the fact that it is recommended by big brother, and
>>>>that you are going to have compatibility problems with the next version of big
>>>>brother's browser/disoperating system if you do not use big brother's compiler.
>>>>
>>>>Now that's quite a feature.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I personally wouldnt care less bashing on MS for this reason.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>He didn't bash MS for this. He just said that GCC 3.1 is faster for his program.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, saying that a Microsoft product sucks isn't bashing. Most of the time it
>>>>is true. And when it is not, the fact that they want to push it into your throat
>>>>at any price is a reason good enough for bashing them.
>>>>
>>>>Bash Microsoft everyday. If you do not know why, I can tell you that THEY know
>>>>why (and you'll discover it later).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>If you dont like MSVC use GCC (free save money!), dont like MSWindows, use Linux
>>>>>(free save money!)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>If you do not like Windows... say it.
>>>>
>>>>And yes, try to move to Linux if possible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Obviously this thread or discussion is not directed towards MS but rather at
>>>>>Eugene, it doesnt take a genius to figure that out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There are smart and respectable people working for Microsoft. Eugene is one of
>>>>them IMO.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christophe
>>>
>>>
>>>Me not MS slave.
>>>Me not MS fan.
>>>Me use Linux too.
>>>Me like Linux.
>>>Me bash MS too, but not unessesary.
>>>
>>>Me waiting for CT15.
>>>
>>>;)
>>>pavs
>>
>>
>>
>>It is coming... ;-)
>>
>>BTW I'm trying Linux too, but I can't get used to it. I thought it was small and
>>elegant, but actually it is as bloated as Windows and quite slower.
>>
>>And too hard to use. The guys who write programs for Linux only have the
>>experienced users in mind. Fatal mistake.
>>
>>Shit. I really hoped to get rid of Windows, but Linux is still not ready.
>>
>>
>>
>> Christophe
>
>We tried to set up an PC with some free Linux pack called Star Office, or
>something like that, at the office. It was so slow as to be usless on a 500Mhz
>Celleron. I have to admit that we did not work very hard to optimise etc. but
>that should not be needed for a simple Wordporocessing and Spreadsheet PC.
>
>Torstein
StarOffice is known to be big and slow.
Maybe what you are looking for is the Koffice suite (several simple office
programs like a word processor and spreadsheet) or CrossOffice (allows to
install and run the real MS Office under Linux, yes, and it works fine!)
Christophe
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