Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: The new version of Junior is significantly better

Author: Mark Young

Date: 23:52:16 07/26/98

Go up one level in this thread


On July 27, 1998 at 01:37:13, blass uri wrote:

>
>On July 26, 1998 at 23:37:23, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On July 26, 1998 at 23:14:45, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>I tested the new version of Junior Amir Ban sent me
>>>and I did a nunn match between Junior and fritz5
>>>
>>>I used pentium200MMX
>>>
>>>Junior5 won the nunn match 12:8
>>>(I gave the programs 10 minutes per game+10 seconds per move).
>>>I gave every program 12,000Kbytes hash tables(I cannot give exactly 12000 so the
>>>computer made it 11,9..Kbytes
>>>
>>>I think the main reason Junior5 won fitz5 is that Junior was better in tactics.
>>>
>>>before this match I did a nunn match with 10 minutes per game without 10 seconds
>>>per move(both sides used near 10,000Kbytes hash tables).
>>>In this match fritz5 won 12:8 but when I looked at the games I saw that
>>>in 1 of the games Junior lost in time at move 156 in a draw position.
>>>fritz has only king and bishop when Junior had king bishop and a pawn.
>>>This is the reason I decided to give the programs more 10 seconds per move.
>>>
>>>This is a big improvement because Junior4.6 lost to fritz5 14.5:5.5 in 10
>>>minutes per move and if I added 10 seconds to every move the result was not
>>>better.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>I have not run the Nunn test with Junior 4.6, but I did let them play out of the
>>same opening book and play both side of the opening. I found Junior 4.6 >better then Fritz 5 at fast time controls.
>
>which opening book did you use?
>from my tests I found Fritz5 is clearly better than Junior4.6 in the nunn test
>and it is not important if I use fast time controls or slow time controls.
>
I used my own power book made from 600,000+ master level games. The computer
picked the openings and the programs played both sides. And I have done the same
thing more then 5 time and let it run all night. All the times at fast time
controls Junior 4.6 was better then Fritz 5. As I slow down the time control its
fritz 5 that comes out on top.
>Uri
>
>> I think it is wrong for people to think
>>fritz 5 is best at fast time controls. I found the program much stronger at
>>slower time controls. If you have the time could you run the match at say game
>>30 with 30 sec inc. I would find this much more telling. I think Junior 5 will
>>be a great program. I can wait until I can buy a copy.



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.