Author: Roy Eassa
Date: 10:29:14 05/20/02
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On May 20, 2002 at 12:50:48, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On May 20, 2002 at 11:34:49, Roy Eassa wrote: > >>Rolf, what you are saying is quite similar in concept to messages I posted over >>the last two months or so. The difference is this: I acknowledged that the top >>programs on fast PCs have achieved 2550 strength, but argued that they may not >>yet have achieved the 2750 (or even 2900) strength that some claim for them. >>You think the computers are Elo 2350, max! Your row is going to be a lot >>tougher to hoe than mine was! > >Yes, Roy, it was fun to read your commentary on the matches with Smirin and >Gurevich recently. I see your claim absolutely affirmated by the best experts >here so that you might have no difficulties _at all_. I didn't talk about the >strength of programs but of engines. Without the big books, you know. The number >2350 is somewhat my choice for real masters who have no official titles. Shortly >under IM who I would locate at FIDE Elo 2400 and more. I know personally masters >of 2350-2390. Perhaps I'm overestimating the strength of the engines. But on the >other hand the tactical overall brute force play is a real obstacle for human >chessplayers. > >Rolf Tueschen We have at least a couple differences: 1) I do not try to state with any certainty the actual strength of the engines. In fact, I contend that NOBODY can state the actual strength with any high degree of certainty. Not those saying the programs are under 2350 not those saying the programs are 2900. 2) I have never expressed an opinion on the opening-book-is-cheating issue. At this point in CC history, such an argument is mainly philosophical, since all the programs use opening books and are not likely to stop any time soon. BTW, do you think using endgame tablebases is cheating too? How about hash tables to speed performance? Regards, -Roy.
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