Author: Alessandro Damiani
Date: 12:35:05 05/20/02
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On May 20, 2002 at 04:41:28, Torstein Hall wrote: >On May 19, 2002 at 23:44:35, Christophe Theron wrote: > >>On May 19, 2002 at 15:43:59, Torstein Hall wrote: >> >>>On May 19, 2002 at 11:49:18, Christophe Theron wrote: >>> >>>>On May 19, 2002 at 02:24:13, pavel wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 19, 2002 at 02:16:39, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 18, 2002 at 23:24:53, pavel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 18, 2002 at 18:47:31, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>With pleasure i announce the results of >>>>>>>>gcc 3.1 versus microsoft visual c++ 6.0 >>>>>>>>sp4 processor pack. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Till recently nothing kicked it at the K7, except >>>>>>>>intel c++ 5.01 (but newer editions of intel were way >>>>>>>>way slower than msvc). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>For DIEP gcc 3.1 is about 5% faster than msvc is. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Note that msvc 6.0 sp4 + processor pack is about >>>>>>>>2% faster than any other msvc version is for me >>>>>>>>(at least what everyone can get somehow in the >>>>>>>>shop + download). it's 2% faster than msvc 7.0 NET >>>>>>>>for example or msvc 6.0 sp5 procpack, because >>>>>>>>it seems the optimizations turned on in the processor >>>>>>>>pack for msvc 6 sp4 are not working for other service >>>>>>>>packs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Now a FREE compiler is faster, which is pretty shocking! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Time to compiler my GUI for linux! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>What makes you think the guys at MS makes MSVC for Chess Programs? >>>>>>>Speed is only important in Chess Programs (or similar programs thats speed >>>>>>>dependend). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Sure, they added speed optimization only for chess programmers, and anyway who >>>>>>cares about chess programs? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>In speed maybe other compilers are better, but what makes the differance is the >>>>>>>overall performance and features. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>What makes the difference is the fact that it is recommended by big brother, and >>>>>>that you are going to have compatibility problems with the next version of big >>>>>>brother's browser/disoperating system if you do not use big brother's compiler. >>>>>> >>>>>>Now that's quite a feature. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>I personally wouldnt care less bashing on MS for this reason. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>He didn't bash MS for this. He just said that GCC 3.1 is faster for his program. >>>>>> >>>>>>Anyway, saying that a Microsoft product sucks isn't bashing. Most of the time it >>>>>>is true. And when it is not, the fact that they want to push it into your throat >>>>>>at any price is a reason good enough for bashing them. >>>>>> >>>>>>Bash Microsoft everyday. If you do not know why, I can tell you that THEY know >>>>>>why (and you'll discover it later). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>If you dont like MSVC use GCC (free save money!), dont like MSWindows, use Linux >>>>>>>(free save money!) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>If you do not like Windows... say it. >>>>>> >>>>>>And yes, try to move to Linux if possible. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Obviously this thread or discussion is not directed towards MS but rather at >>>>>>>Eugene, it doesnt take a genius to figure that out. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>There are smart and respectable people working for Microsoft. Eugene is one of >>>>>>them IMO. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Christophe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Me not MS slave. >>>>>Me not MS fan. >>>>>Me use Linux too. >>>>>Me like Linux. >>>>>Me bash MS too, but not unessesary. >>>>> >>>>>Me waiting for CT15. >>>>> >>>>>;) >>>>>pavs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>It is coming... ;-) >>>> >>>>BTW I'm trying Linux too, but I can't get used to it. I thought it was small and >>>>elegant, but actually it is as bloated as Windows and quite slower. >>>> >>>>And too hard to use. The guys who write programs for Linux only have the >>>>experienced users in mind. Fatal mistake. >>>> >>>>Shit. I really hoped to get rid of Windows, but Linux is still not ready. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Christophe >>> >>>We tried to set up an PC with some free Linux pack called Star Office, or >>>something like that, at the office. It was so slow as to be usless on a 500Mhz >>>Celleron. I have to admit that we did not work very hard to optimise etc. but >>>that should not be needed for a simple Wordporocessing and Spreadsheet PC. >>> >>>Torstein >> >> >>StarOffice is known to be big and slow. >> >>Maybe what you are looking for is the Koffice suite (several simple office >>programs like a word processor and spreadsheet) or CrossOffice (allows to >>install and run the real MS Office under Linux, yes, and it works fine!) >> >> >> >> Christophe > >Thanks for the tip Christophe, but I think I will have a hard time to get our >system department to try out a Linux package again...... > >But as long as it is free, compared to the insane pricing MS is trying for their >newer Windows variations, I got to try again. (I actually find Win XP a excelent >product at a wrong pricepoint. We will probably not use it before pricing >becomes much more reasonable!) > >Torstein StarOffice is dead. Forget it. The next generation is OpenOffice. Keep it in mind. :) Take a look at www.openoffice.org Alessandro
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