Author: Uri Blass
Date: 22:56:51 05/21/02
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On May 22, 2002 at 01:39:09, Uri Blass wrote: >On May 21, 2002 at 23:57:58, Vincent Lejeune wrote: > >>On May 21, 2002 at 18:13:21, Roy Eassa wrote: >> >>>On May 21, 2002 at 13:48:54, Tony Hedlund wrote: >>> >>>>[Event "Tony Hedlund"] >>>>[Site "SSDF"] >>>>[Date "2002.05.21"] >>>>[Round "10"] >>>>[White "Chess Tiger 14.9a Palm"] >>>>[Black "Comet A90 P200"] >>>>[BlackElo "2253"] >>>>[Result "1-0"] >>>>[Opening "C88 Ruy Lopez: Closed, 7...0-0"] >>>> >>>>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 O-O >>>>8. d4 Nxd4 9. Nxd4 exd4 10. e5 Ne8 11. Qxd4 Bb7 12. Rd1 d6 13. Qg4 c5 >>>>14. Bd5 Bxd5 15. Rxd5 Qc8 16. Qxc8 Rxc8 17. Bf4 dxe5 18. Bxe5 Nf6 >>>>19. Rd3 Ng4 20. Bf4 Bf6 21. Nc3 Bd4 22. Bg3 Rce8 23. Kf1 f5 24. h3 f4 >>>>25. hxg4 fxg3 26. f3 Re6 27. Re1 Rh6 28. Ne4 Rh1+ 29. Ke2 Rh2 30. Kf1 Bxb2 >>>>31. Nxg3 Rh4 32. Re4 Rh6 33. Rd5 c4 34. g5 Rb6 35. Re7 Rbb8 36. Ra7 Rfd8 >>>>37. Rxd8+ Rxd8 38. Ke2 Rd6 39. Ne4 Re6 40. Ke3 Bc1+ 41. Kd4 Rg6 >>>>42. Ra8+ Kf7 43. Kd5 Bf4 44. c3 Ke7 45. Rh8 Bxg5 46. Rxh7 Bf4 47. g4 Bh6 >>>>48. Ke5 Kf7 49. Rh8 Bc1 50. Ra8 Ke7 51. Ra7+ Kf8 52. Rb7 Rc6 53. f4 Rg6 >>>>54. g5 Be3 55. Rb8+ Ke7 56. f5 Rb6 57. f6+ gxf6+ 58. gxf6+ Kd7 59. Rh8 Re6+ >>>>60. Kd5 Rxe4 61. Kxe4 Bc5 62. Kd5 Ba3 63. f7 a5 64. Ra8 Bf8 65. Rxf8 Ke7 >>>>66. Ra8 Kxf7 67. Rxa5 1-0 >>>> >>>>A fantastic game by Tiger. Look at the centralized knight and king, they >>>>dominate the board. >>>> >>>>Tony >>> >>> >>>Opening question: >>> >>>doesn't this, instead of 12...d6, win material for Black? : >>>[d] r2qnrk1/1bppbppp/p7/1p2P3/3Q4/1B6/PPP2PPP/RNBR2K1 b - - 0 11 >>>12...c5 13.Qxd7 c4 14.Nc3 Rb8 >> >>Yes, you're totally right, the trap bishop is a theme in this opening (8.d4), >>the level of CT 14.9a Palm is not nearly 2000 elo in this position :( > >The level of CometA90 is even worse in that position. > >palm tiger could not see it with white but Comet could not see it with black and >finding it with black is easier by 1 ply. > >It may be interesting to test both programs to find how much time they need to >avoid Rd1 and how much time they need to find c5 in order to see if Comet is >better in tactics than palm tiger or the opposite. > >I believe that 120/40 was not enough but that they are going to find the right >move after enough time. > >The position is not so easy for computers and I bet that a lot of amatuers are >not going to find c5 on p200 at time control of 120/40. > >movei seems to be one of them. > >Uri I tested movei0.07a on p200(16 Mbytes hash) at this moment. The debug file gives the following information but the time management from setup position seem to be broken. I do not think that movei could get depth 10 on p200 in a real tournament. I also believe that the speed gain of movei from p800 is bigger than the speed gain of most chess program because I know that usually movei search at least 150 kn/second on p800 when here it searched less than 25 kn/second on p200 so it seems that the p800 help it to be 6 times faster than the p200. I am not sure because it is possible that my p200 was slowed down by some factor because other applications were also open. 9 7 10666 2495681 d7d6 e5e6 f7f6 d4e3 c7c5 c2c4 b5c4 b3c4 d6d5 9 7 13083 3104704 d7d6 e5e6 f7f6 d4e3 c7c5 c2c4 b5c4 b3c4 d6d5 10 -6 32098 7759346 d7d6 e5e6 f7e6 b3e6 g8h8 b1c3 c7c5 d4e3 e8c7 c1d2 c7e6 e3e6 10 -5 38250 9169704 c7c5 10 43 64504 15363702 c7c5 d4d7 c5c4 b1c3 a8b8 d7g4 d8a5 d1d7 e7c5 b3c4 b5c4 g4c4 10 43 66570 15892165 c7c5 d4d7 c5c4 b1c3 a8b8 d7g4 d8a5 d1d7 e7c5 b3c4 b5c4 g4c4 Uri
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