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Subject: Re: can GM's learn from programs

Author: Terry Ripple

Date: 02:12:17 05/22/02

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On May 21, 2002 at 13:01:14, José Carlos wrote:

>On May 21, 2002 at 12:34:39, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On May 21, 2002 at 12:20:52, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On May 21, 2002 at 11:07:46, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 21, 2002 at 10:13:29, K. Burcham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The answer is as simple as clear.
>>>>
>>>>They can use programs to analyze games with from other GMs
>>>>and themselves. They can use it to analyze variations from their
>>>>openings preparation with.
>>>>
>>>>But they can't learn from it.
>>>
>>>
>>>What about tactically, can a player less than 2400 learn a few tricks from the
>>>best programs?
>>>
>>>Jorge
>>
>>GMs know tactically more than programs, so you can analyze with them,
>>but not learn from them. The computer doesnt 'show' a new pattern concept
>>to you. So you don't learn from the computer something. You can learn
>>yourself only when analyzing with computers, that's why i say you can't
>>learn FROM the computer.
>
>  I disagree, Vincent. You can learn from the computer. It is the computer that
>can't teach you.
>  No matter from what, human beings spend the whole life learning. From
>everything. You learn geology from stones, zoology from animals, physics from
>the planets and stars.
>  They don't teach you anything. It's _you_ that observe, make a theory, test it
>and draw conclusions. You can do exactly the same from a computer. You play
>against it; it wins; you study the game; guess why you lost; play again; maybe
>you force the same opening and change a move or a plan... Finally, you draw
>conclusions. And your source of information is, in that case, Fritz!!! :)
>
>  José C.
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Hi Jose,

I think you are very correct with your explanation!

Good answer!
Regards, Terry



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