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Subject: Re: can GM's learn from programs? Any GM in the forum, to the rescue?

Author: Claudio A. Amorim

Date: 04:29:38 05/22/02

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I´d like to hear some GM on this subject, which is part of my Master Thesis!

Regards all,

Claudio.



On May 21, 2002 at 10:13:29, K. Burcham wrote:

>
>not discussing opening book moves.
>not discussing egtb's.
>not discussing a pawn promotion.
>
>
>
>lets start out saying GM eval is 0, and program eval is 0.
>lots of time left on both clocks. time is not an issue.
>
>the GM makes a move and plays what he sees as a safe move.
>GM took three minutes to move, but he cannot see the material winning
>combination for the program.
>the program takes three more minutes to see material winning move.
>finally program plays winning move, and GM can see combination.
>
>program wins.
>
>If GM's cannot learn strategy from programs, if GM's can only learn tactics,
>then the question is:  in the above described game , it would seem that most of
>the time the GM cannot learn tactics either. if the combination is too deep for
>the GM to see he loses material, then he cannot see this in another game.
>
>Just wondering how a GM can learn from home practice with programs.
>it would seem that in a postion were the GM could play a losing move and he
>cannot see the deep combination, but the program can, he could not have won
>anyway.
>
>maybe some will answer that this is not possible. maybe some will say there
>is no posiiton that the program can see winning material but GM cannot.
>
>of course i am not refering to an simple oversight by the GM. i am not refering
>to a simple human blunder. i am refering to a situation that the GM says he
>could not see the combination until it was played out.
>
>kburcham



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