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Subject: Re: Result of games lost on time

Author: blass uri

Date: 08:06:58 07/27/98

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On July 27, 1998 at 10:36:07, blass uri wrote:

>
>On July 27, 1998 at 04:44:31, Amir Ban wrote:
>
>>On July 26, 1998 at 23:14:45, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In this match fritz5 won 12:8 but when I looked at the games I saw that
>>>in 1 of the games Junior lost in time at move 156 in a draw position.
>>>fritz has only king and bishop when Junior had king bishop and a pawn.
>>
>>This game should be judged to be a draw, not a loss. The Fritz shell uses a
>>wrong interpretation of the rules.
>>
>>The correct rule is that when one side is out of time, it loses the game only if
>>there is some possible continuation to a position where it is on move and cannot
>>avoid mate-in-one. Otherwise it's drawn.
>>
>>This is not the same thing as the possibility of help-mate. By the rule, it is
>>always a loss when the opponent has a pawn, or at least a rook. In the situation
>>described of KBP out of time against KB it is always a draw.
>
>In this case by the rules fritz5 won because the bishops were not controling the
>same squares.
>
>It is possible for Junior to do a rook out of its pawn and be in a position like
>Junior:king a1 ,bishop b1, Rook c1
>Fritz: king a3 bishop d4
>and it is the move of Junior and it must play Rc3 and fritz mates by Bxc3

Junior do not have to do a rook in order to lose it is enough to do a queen and
put a queen at h2 instead of a rook at c1
I think that if the bishops were controling the same squares then the only case
Junior loses if it loses on time is if it can do a bishop controling different
squares
(doing a knight is not enough because in a position like Ka1 knight b1 bishop c1
the knight can go to c3 and there is no forced mate).

Uri
>
>Uri
>>
>>The intent of the rule is not to award a win when it is technically impossible.
>>
>>Amir



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