Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Strength of the engine in chess programs (Summary of the debate)

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 14:22:15 05/23/02

Go up one level in this thread


On May 23, 2002 at 13:46:10, José Carlos wrote:

>
>  It's interesting to see how you avoid what I wrote and simply sing your song
>over and over. So much that some of the things you say are in agreement with my
>point of view, but you don't seem to realize.
>  I'll continue discussing this interesting topic with you as long as you reply
>to ideas instead of repeating the same as if I had said nothing. Otherwise, it
>doesn't make sense.
>
>  José C.

Thanks for your insisting. But in my weaker lingual understanding I got the
impression that you might be tired or wanted to bash me however in funny
disguise. On the other hand I didn't want to write it because that might sound
impolite. So, yes, I read that you put on the head what I had written. Although
let there be no mistake, in programming a chess program you could even cut me in
two parts and I wouldn't notice it. :)

In other words, I got the impression that you would feel deeply insulted by some
of my proposals and you wanted to get rid of it.

IF that is all not the case, then I must apologize because it's my English
again. I can communicate, but I don't know about the English's exact
connotations in direction of fun, mockery or being serious. In German I'll could
do the same without even a German would remark it. If you know what I mean. My
problem is that even my absolutely friendly meant phrases have from time to time
an unforeseen trend into something I never learned about in English, so that it
wasn't the intention, but the other person still feels agitated. I am still on
the level of Shakespeare and the speech of Antonius. That was the last time I
met irony in English.

So, I would reply you this way: could you please be so kind and take my
proposals and turn them into something reasonable in terms of your field? And
then could you tell me why something is not so elegant and other things
impossible? For me it looks as if I had to defend my ideas here although
everybody has understood already but nobody wants to change anything. So
obviously that's a forced debate. Perhaps it is also funny for younger persons
to simply watch when someone can't even explain exactly what he means but he
nevertheless told the public that his proposals had advantages, or less, the
consense could have advantages compared to the actual situation in FIDE.

(This is a question of self-confidence, and you should not underestimate that I
still tried to write my ideas in a forum with so many experts.)

I did never think that I could solve any of your problems, but perhaps I could
ask questions that could lead you to a debate with some solutions. To do that I
must not necessarily be completely familiar with your profession. This is
interdisciplinary, but if you already get excited if a foreigner to the
programmer's computerchess asked the questions, then I see no good chances that
anything at all could happen. Other than mock battles.

In the German forum at CSS (closely related to ChessBase) I was once told that I
couldn't believe that such problems were discussed with me. I had proposed a
commission, but the truth was that nobody wanted to discuss anything at all.
Neither with nor without me. Mock battles.

Rolf Tueschen



This page took 0.01 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.