Author: Uri Blass
Date: 00:46:04 05/24/02
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On May 24, 2002 at 01:21:55, Terry McCracken wrote: >On May 24, 2002 at 01:09:32, Jouni Uski wrote: > >>On May 24, 2002 at 00:01:02, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On May 23, 2002 at 20:43:18, martin fierz wrote: >>> >>>>On May 23, 2002 at 19:37:34, Joshua Lee wrote: >>>> >>>>>I Thought some of you might be interested that if you play through this movie >>>>>slowly you can clearly see Deep Blue's PV and other stuff. It looks like in one >>>>>scene that Deep Blue was using Xboard. I don't know what else you can decipher >>>>>from any of this but it is the clearest thing i've seen. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>http://www.chessbase.de/vw_phaeton_kasparov.mov >>>> >>>>what i saw was that the footage of kasparov was probably from the infamous game >>>>6 in the second match - you can see him go 5. ...Ng8-f6 - and two moves later he >>>>will lose the match with ...h6?? ... >>> >>>Kasparov did not lose the 6th game by h6. >>> >>>Uri >> >>You are absolutely right Uri! I hate to read always, that h6 was losing move, it >>wasn't. >> >>Jouni > >You always read it as it's basically true. No sane person would try 7...h6 >intentually! > >Ask Kasparov! Or any top GM, it's not a good move and 8.Nxe6!!? is almost >certainly winning, at least against a tactician like DB 2! > >Terry Can you prove it in a comp-comp games. I am curious to know if deeper blue could beat the commercial programs or itself with Nxe6 fxe6. We will never know the answer because deeper blue is dead but we can get an estimate by seeing results of comp-comp games. I believe that deeper blue is weaker than the commercial progams but even if we assume that it does not I think that almost everybody agree that computers today at 24 hours per move are not worse than deeper blue at 3 minutes per move. If I see one correspondence game between top programs at 24 hours per move when white wins then I may change my mind about the value of Nxe6. If there are people with fast hardware who want to play coprrespondence comp-comp game from the relevant position then it will be interesting to see because I am not going to waste computer time about it. Uri
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