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Subject: OT/Re: linux issues

Author: Peter Berger

Date: 01:04:38 05/24/02

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On May 23, 2002 at 18:28:36, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>On May 23, 2002 at 17:47:18, Peter Berger wrote:
>
>>$ grep -i weird-engine *
>>
>>I have yet to find out how to do this with Windows let alone on my Palm ;) ..
>
>Almost all computers, I have used, had grep or workalikes (even old DOSish grep
>tools seem to work perfectly here).

Mine hasn't:

C:\WINDOWS>grep
Befehl oder Dateiname nicht gefunden.


 Atari ST (1986) had allready grep (from the
>FSS, who may be of more fame with gcc here). The first tcc (Turbo C Compiler? -
>late 80ies) I used, already shipped together with grep. From earlier computers i
>used, I actually  cannot remember grep like tools. If the palm does not have it
>- well - not everything is improvement ... but sounds almost incredible
>
>Cheers,
>Dieter

I didn't claim that the Palm doesn't have it but that _I_ don't know how to do
this on my Palm. To use a Windows grep for example you have to download it on
some tool site I assume - average ordinary user won't do that.

Windows probably really is a little easier to use than Linux but not much.
Windows isn't that easy to use either - the average user just got used to it,
which was my main point. Everything you know a little is easy.

Recently there was a nice thread here discussing how to install a book update
for Hiarcs 8 that was offered for download at ChessBase.

You had to do two things after download:

a.)Create a new opening tree ( there is a menu entry for that)
b.)Import old book and choose the downloaded file when unzipped ( another menu
entry)

Really a piece of cake. But I remember at least two people who failed because
when you create a new opening tree you have to type a name in the textbox for
it. If you don't know that it isn't trivial to find out ..

Another example: I wasn't able to deinstall an application on my Palm because I
couldn't think of the right place to look for this option - it _was_ easy, when
I knew.

For me it is always a good lesson to watch my father working with his computer -
he does many things in a way I wouldn't think plausible until I think about it
again and understand why he does it like this.

OK, just one more ;-):

Often on this board I have read something like this :

I installed the update for chessprogram x , it didn't work anymore. So I
deinstalled the program and installed it again - still didn't work. Then I
downloaded the update again. Then I decided to reinstall Windows (!! - at least
10 messages I have read who had that one).

Is this easy or logical? No, it is some workaround guided by user experience (
once it worked when I did this ..)

Enough offtopic :)

PeTer






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