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Subject: Re: Would Genius 3 be crushed or not? CHESSFUN?

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 05:14:00 05/24/02

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On May 23, 2002 at 11:48:37, Chessfun wrote:

>On May 20, 2002 at 21:29:52, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On May 20, 2002 at 21:05:12, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On May 20, 2002 at 15:04:34, Ed Panek wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 20, 2002 at 09:54:52, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 20, 2002 at 09:20:12, Ed Panek wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 19, 2002 at 13:26:08, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 19, 2002 at 13:15:44, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On May 19, 2002 at 11:31:27, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>That's one of the most important questions, for me.
>>>>>>>>>Would Genius 3 ever a) be beaten uniformly in every single game? b)Or atleast
>>>>>>>>>would it never win?
>>>>>>>>>If that has not yet been achieved, is it ALMOST achieved by now?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I do not think that it almost achieved.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>A program may even beat another program that is 400 elo better in a single game.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Genius3 is clearly better than being 400 elo weaker than the top programs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I guess that Genius3 is going to have chances to win against the top programs at
>>>>>>>>least in the next few years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>A candidate master always has chances to beat grandmaster in a single game when
>>>>>>>>the opponents are humans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I see no reason to expect different things from chess programs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I would even go as far as saying that any of the top five programs Fritz 7 Chess
>>>>>>>Tiger 14, Shredder or Junior 7, and HIARCS 8 can NOT beat Chess Genius 3 more
>>>>>>>than 75% of the times using similar hardware in a match of 40 games at Blitz
>>>>>>>time control less than G/30.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pichard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>OK pichard lets play...
>>>>>>you use genius 3.0 and I'll use GT2.0 and we can play at an online server to
>>>>>>determine the truth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ed
>>>>>Are you going to be doing this? Can you let us know the results?
>>>>>Obviously you (Ed) are disputing Pichard!
>>>>>S.Taylor
>>>>I suppose I could also do this myslef if need be. I have 2 computers and I have
>>>>genius4.0 , not 3 though. I could give genius4 my athlon 1.33 and gt2 would use
>>>>my PIII800MHZ. I cant figure out how to setup genius4 with 232 support...that
>>>>would make it easier.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>I know very little about this, but chessfun said that most of todays programs
>>>come with an auto player, and it "only" needs a cable to connect the computers.
>>>I'm sure Tiger would have that   "autoplayer"
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>
>>Tiger does, but Genius 3 don't.
>>
>>Sarah.
>
>As correctly pointed out by Jeroen in;
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?231008
>Genius 3 as well as 4 and 6 will run in Genius 6.5.
>
>Therefore you could autoplay against Tiger.
>
>Sarah.
Thanks Sarah, for pointing that out. I would have missed it!
S.Taylor



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