Author: Chris Carson
Date: 07:04:25 05/24/02
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On May 24, 2002 at 08:21:17, Jorge Pichard wrote: >Fritz performance was NOT greater than 2650 and I doubt that if they would >paired it against GM Smirin it would have won at least one game. Deep fritz will >be using an 8X system against GM Kramnik, that has a difference of more than 200 >rating points over GM Gulko and is a better player than GM Smirin. >I doubt if Deep Fritz will gain more than 150 raring points by using an 8x >system at standard time control. Also those games that GM Gulko played were at >G/60 plus 10 seconds per move. I just wonder why Chessbase is scare to match >their best programs at standard time control, like Mr. Schoeder with Rebel. >Chessbase doesn't even want to match their best programs at G/90 plus 5 seconds >per move, which to my judgement GM Gulko , GM Seirawan, or GM Smirin would >demonstrate that the programs are NOT yet over 2600 against them, even if they >use the latest Intel Pentium IV 2.53 Ghz. > >Pichard. Ofcourse you can think what you like. I expect the 8x machine that D.Fritz plays on will give a 2650 performance. I think DF or DJ is 2750 (tournament, not match) on the 8x box. This match will be against a 2800 player that is well prepared. 100 points seems to be the loss for a computer (on average) when paired against a well prepared GM in match play. On single proc AMD or Intel boxes, Fritz, Junior, Tiger, Hiarcs and Rebel are 2650 (actually 2680 when results from 800Mhz and faster machine results are calculated). Rebel had a 2700 performance against a well prepared (100 games of preparation) 2700 GM using an AMD 1900+. These are Standard FIDE and 40/2 results. Yes, you will see some performances above and below (200 - 400 points) the average ELO for the programs, but the same is true for the GM's, check TWIC. GM's (strong GM's) have to play flawless chess with white pieces and use anti-computer (closed positions) to defeat the computers. Typical or average GM's get beat by the programs on a regular basis. Enjoy this time. Today, GM's below 2600 have a very hard time with the computers, in 3 years it will be GM's below 2700 on single processor boxex. In 3 years on the 8x box, well, only the 2800 GM's will have a chance. Besides the speed improvement, there is impressive sw improvement. In 5 years (+ or - 2 years) the machines will rule this game. They will still lose every once in a while, but it will be very rare.
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