Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 11:39:19 05/24/02
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On May 24, 2002 at 04:04:38, Peter Berger wrote:
>On May 23, 2002 at 18:28:36, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>
>>On May 23, 2002 at 17:47:18, Peter Berger wrote:
>>
>>>$ grep -i weird-engine *
>>>
>>>I have yet to find out how to do this with Windows let alone on my Palm ;) ..
>>
>>Almost all computers, I have used, had grep or workalikes (even old DOSish grep
>>tools seem to work perfectly here).
>
>Mine hasn't:
>
>C:\WINDOWS>grep
>Befehl oder Dateiname nicht gefunden.
>
>
> Atari ST (1986) had allready grep (from the
>>FSS, who may be of more fame with gcc here). The first tcc (Turbo C Compiler? -
>>late 80ies) I used, already shipped together with grep. From earlier computers i
>>used, I actually cannot remember grep like tools. If the palm does not have it
>>- well - not everything is improvement ... but sounds almost incredible
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Dieter
>
>I didn't claim that the Palm doesn't have it but that _I_ don't know how to do
>this on my Palm. To use a Windows grep for example you have to download it on
>some tool site I assume - average ordinary user won't do that.
Your point is valid in spirit and I understand it, but your example is badly
chosen.
On the Palm you have a hard-printed icon on the screen to do it (the magnifying
glass). It's one of the basic feature of the Palm OS.
On PC, I have solved this since a long time by writting my own variation of
grep. But there are anyway thousands out there that you can get for free.
>Windows probably really is a little easier to use than Linux but not much.
>Windows isn't that easy to use either - the average user just got used to it,
>which was my main point. Everything you know a little is easy.
>
>Recently there was a nice thread here discussing how to install a book update
>for Hiarcs 8 that was offered for download at ChessBase.
>
>You had to do two things after download:
>
>a.)Create a new opening tree ( there is a menu entry for that)
>b.)Import old book and choose the downloaded file when unzipped ( another menu
>entry)
>
>Really a piece of cake. But I remember at least two people who failed because
>when you create a new opening tree you have to type a name in the textbox for
>it. If you don't know that it isn't trivial to find out ..
>
>Another example: I wasn't able to deinstall an application on my Palm because I
>couldn't think of the right place to look for this option - it _was_ easy, when
>I knew.
>
>For me it is always a good lesson to watch my father working with his computer -
>he does many things in a way I wouldn't think plausible until I think about it
>again and understand why he does it like this.
That's exactly what developpers of Linux should do. That would open their eyes
and make them realize what parts of the system they need to work on.
I think the guys at Lindows.com are on the right track.
Christophe
>OK, just one more ;-):
>
>Often on this board I have read something like this :
>
>I installed the update for chessprogram x , it didn't work anymore. So I
>deinstalled the program and installed it again - still didn't work. Then I
>downloaded the update again. Then I decided to reinstall Windows (!! - at least
>10 messages I have read who had that one).
>
>Is this easy or logical? No, it is some workaround guided by user experience (
>once it worked when I did this ..)
>
>Enough offtopic :)
>
>PeTer
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