Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 18:24:38 05/24/02
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On May 24, 2002 at 09:05:08, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On May 24, 2002 at 01:17:47, Terry McCracken wrote: > >As we see in DB description in their article, >it had only 4000 book moves, so Nxe6 was not inside >this book for sure. Nxe6 came out of an automatic >generated book. This is wrong. DB claimed to have "practically _every_ chess game ever recorded in PGN" in their opening book. They had a hand-tailored book much like the way I do "books.bin". But their base book was huge. This was reported by them multiple times. > >As we know nowadays you can beat an automatic generated >book very easily by playing mainlines. I would not say "very easily". > >>On May 24, 2002 at 00:01:02, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On May 23, 2002 at 20:43:18, martin fierz wrote: >>> >>>>On May 23, 2002 at 19:37:34, Joshua Lee wrote: >>>> >>>>>I Thought some of you might be interested that if you play through this movie >>>>>slowly you can clearly see Deep Blue's PV and other stuff. It looks like in one >>>>>scene that Deep Blue was using Xboard. I don't know what else you can decipher >>>>>from any of this but it is the clearest thing i've seen. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>http://www.chessbase.de/vw_phaeton_kasparov.mov >>>> >>>>what i saw was that the footage of kasparov was probably from the infamous game >>>>6 in the second match - you can see him go 5. ...Ng8-f6 - and two moves later he >>>>will lose the match with ...h6?? ... >>> >>>Kasparov did not lose the 6th game by h6. >>> >>>The problem was that kasparov did not know how to play later and did many >>>mistakes. >>> >>>The first one of them was Qe7 when I believe that a simple capture of the knight >>>by fxe6 can win the game. >>> >>>I rememeber that I tried to play Genius3 against itself after fxe6 in unequal >>>time control after the match and black won the game inspite of the fact that I >>>gave white more time. >>> >>>30 minutes/move for white and 3 minutes/move for black on p100 at that time. >>> >>The problem was that kasparov did not know how to play later and did many >>>Uri >> >>mistakes. >> >>He knew as much as anyone after the error, 7...h6?! >> >>I can't see how you can say this about the best player in modern history, if not >>all-time? >> >>The first one of them was Qe7 when I believe that a simple capture of the knight >>by fxe6 can win the game. >> >>Can you prove this? Of course not, as after Nxe6!!? it's too complex and _all_ >>GM's in their right mind's would avoid the sacrifice. >> >>Joel Benjimen was correct including 8.Nxe6 in DB 2's book! >> >> >> >>Uri, after after 7...h6 Kasparov was in a terrible situation. Out of 10 GM games >>with 7...h6, prior to Kasparov, (instead of Bd6 followed by 8.h6) 9 were lost! >> >>Against Deep Blue II, I would have to say Kasparov had little chance due to his >>state of mind and the awesome calculating abilities of the machine. Virtually >>Kasparov lost at move 7. >> >>He may have had better trys then Qe7?! but that's moot, as the tactics favoured >>this tactical monster. >> >>Genius 3 on a P-100 will not give a great deal of insight on DB 2 after 8. >>Nxe6!!? >> >>Regards, >> Terry
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