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Subject: Re: Mathematics ;-)

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 08:18:41 05/25/02

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On May 25, 2002 at 09:48:14, Harald Faber wrote:

>On May 25, 2002 at 03:55:58, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>>THE SSDF RATING LIST 2002-05-22   86121 games played by  240 computers
>>                                           Rating   +     -  Games   Won  Oppo
>>                                           ------  ---   --- -----   ---  ----
>>   1 Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz         2730   33   -31   494   64%  2626
>>   2 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 256MB Athlon 1200   2722   33   -32   477   63%  2626
>>   3 Gambit Tiger 2.0  256MB Athlon 1200     2720   34   -33   441   62%  2635
>>   4 Deep Fritz 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz        2714   33   -32   482   63%  2623
>>   5 Shredder 6.0  256MB Athlon 1200 MHz     2713   35   -34   432   64%  2611
>>   6 Junior 7.0  256MB  Athlon 1200 MHz      2693   31   -31   511   57%  2641
>>
>>Shredder 6.32 (CB version) is 27 points behind Fritz 7
>
>
>In fact Shredder is *17* points behind Fritz 7. ;-)
>2730 - 2713 :-)
>
>
>>  14 Fritz 7.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz           2631   45   -44   250   56%  2592
>>  14 Junior 7.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz          2631   27   -26   739   67%  2507
>
>
>Shouldn't be the program listed higher which has a smaller margin of error (=
>has played more games)?
>
>
>>  16 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2630   28   -27   652   62%  2541
>>  16 Shredder 6.0 UCI 128MB K6-2 450 MHz     2630   65   -62   124   57%  2578
>>  18 Fritz 6.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz           2623   23   -22  1014   63%  2529
>>
>>Shredder 6.0 (UCI version) is 1 point behind Fritz 7
>>
>> SSDF comment
>>
>>We have played 124 games with the UCI-version of
>>Shredder 6.0 K6-2 450 MHz, using the opening book of
>>Sandro Necchi. So far the rating is 2630. With so few
>>games it's difficult to draw any conclusions concerning
>>which opening book Shredder 6.0 might benefit most from.
>>
>>My comment:
>>
>>What is 26 points difference?
>>
>>Apparently NOTHING:-))
>>
>>No other comments are needed.
>>
>>Sandro Necchi
>
>
>Exactly. And that is why I've been saying for ages that at least the top-5
>programs play on ONE level. None of them is really significant stronger than the
>others.

We know this, but this is not reality. For 99.9% of the worldpopulation
it doesn't matter whether you are at 0.0001 difference at number 2,
or at 1000 difference.

The first one is the winner and the rest has lost.






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