Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 22:38:45 05/25/02
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On May 25, 2002 at 19:39:20, stuart taylor wrote:
>On May 24, 2002 at 14:22:53, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On May 24, 2002 at 08:10:17, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On May 23, 2002 at 21:47:29, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 23, 2002 at 20:54:58, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 23, 2002 at 16:19:49, Chris Carson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 23, 2002 at 15:31:12, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 23, 2002 at 14:48:08, J. C. Boco wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On May 23, 2002 at 11:17:29, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Now that Palm is migrating to the faster CPUs that Pocket PC uses, are you
>>>>>>>>>planning to abandon developing Chess Tiger for Pocket PC and just stick with
>>>>>>>>>Chess Tiger for Palm OS?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I would like to add a question. Given the StrongArm processors in Palms will be
>>>>>>>>available later this year, when will you have a StrongArm-Native ChessTiger for
>>>>>>>>Palm?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't know. As soon as I get the necessary tools (compiler, IDE), but they are
>>>>>>>not ready at this time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How much slower will a non-native version be?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't know. It is possible that Chess Tiger running on a StrongARM emulating a
>>>>>>>DragonBall is as fast as on a real DragonBall. PACE (the DragonBall emulator in
>>>>>>>PalmOS 5) is only 80Kb in size and from what I read is very efficient.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The speed of the emulator is not the only issue. The OS APIs are going to be
>>>>>>>MUCH faster, because the new OS is written in native StrongARM. And Chess Tiger
>>>>>>>uses the OS heavily to deal with hash tables (it is not possible to have direct
>>>>>>>access to big chunks of memory under the current version of PalmOS, so I have to
>>>>>>>call an OS API each time I need to access the hash table, that is on every
>>>>>>>node).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I guess the native StrongARM version of Tiger will be 6 to 10 times faster, but
>>>>>>>it's just a guess. It could be more, not only because the clock runs faster
>>>>>>>(bigger MHz number) but also because on the ARM architecture you need less clock
>>>>>>>cycles to process one instruction (it's a RISC).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Christophe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am excited about this. A 2300+ master to carry around in my pocket! Thanks
>>>>>>Christophe, keep up the great work and great products!
>>>>>
>>>>>Exciting? maybe! but will things ever get any better after that (for handhelds)?
>>>>>S.Taylor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes. Intel has planned a 1GHz XScale processor (which is a StrongARM compatible
>>>>processor, so it can be used to power a Palm).
>>>>
>>>>After that there will be 2GHz handhelds.
>>>>
>>>>After that, we will see 3GHz handhelds.
>>>>
>>>>It is expected that handhelds running at 4GHz will come a little bit after.
>>>>
>>>>...
>>>>
>>>>If you are afraid that your investment is outdated in 2 or 3 month, never buy a
>>>>computer or a handheld.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christophe
>>>
>>>I appologise that I've already repeated my question above before I saw your
>>>answer here.
>>> I suppose the problem is in ME. Either I like buying latest models as a hobby,
>>>or I should know how to be satisfied with what I have, for a long time, and
>>>concentrate on improving mySELF. I'm just waiting for the middle compromise,
>>>which might be with Palm 6. But then again, the companies won't be too happy
>>>about people like me being too satisfied for too long. But don't worry! I'll be
>>>the one to win, soon, and I'll be happy. Maybe with the 6!
>>>I mean, what about people who have to die, when will THEY have what they were
>>>waiting for? (and believe me, many fine people have already died!).
>>>S.Taylor
>>>
>>>p.s. I know someone who has a Palm 3.0 and doesn't dream of getting a new one,
>>>even though he uses his, every day for work.
>>> But when I showed him my digital camera module to my Handspring Visor, he
>>>looked a BIT interested!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>I think you are taking the wrong approach.
>>
>>Computer technology is not something that you buy and own.
>>
>>This economic model is wrong is is used to make people believe that computer
>>technology is cheap. People fall into the trap because they are used to this
>>model.
>>
>>Computer technology is a subscription: you will pay from time to time to keep
>>the service uninterrupted.
>>
>>What you need to decide is how much you want to spend on computer technology
>>every year, and then look for the best deals in this framework.
>>
>>
>>
>> Christophe
>
>Very interesting approach. So It's like a club, not something to use. But you
>are granted the honour of testing it out for a year in return for supporting the
>companies. Expensive hobby!
>S.Taylor
You've got it.
This game will last until the public is educated enough to realize the concept.
Then computer/software companies will have to deliver more durable products and
more compatibility beetween new and old products.
Or if you prefer, some respect to the consumer.
Christophe
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