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Subject: Re: Comments of latest SSDF list 2

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 04:49:26 05/26/02

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On May 26, 2002 at 05:09:33, Torstein Hall wrote:

>>Another point: if you took a look at the list where Shredder was leading you
>>could see that the leading programs had played their games against totally
>>different opponents. So you can't compare the ratings at all.
>
>If you can not do that then I think you can forget about rating. I'm playing
>different players based on rating and of course often we have not played the
>same persons. That is one of the reasons we have rating!

This is absurd. I assist Martin Schubert that _testing_ could not allow
deliberately chosen opponents. We are talking about rankings in test series,
_not_ in real life tournaments.


>
>>My suggestion: the top programms should play the same opponents to make it
>>possible to compare their results.
>>If I remember right it happens quite often that a program is very strong in the
>>first rating list it appears in (where it plays against weak opponents). In the
>>next rating list where it has to fight the tough ones it falls back in the
>>rating list.
>
>That is what the error margins are for. I think the rating normally stays within
>this limits. So for a given program that has got a SSDF rating of say 2600 +/-
>43 You can say with 95% (if I remember right) confidence that the program has a
>rating within the range 2557 - 2643

This is absolutely false. THe error margins have _nothing_ in principal to do
with different opponents (on different hardware actually)! The margins are
simply a consequence of the statistical maths.

Rolf Tueschen



>
>Torstein
>>
>>Regards, Martin



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