Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 15:39:02 05/26/02
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On May 26, 2002 at 15:13:02, Jorge Pichard wrote: >http://www.chessbase.com/columns/column.asp?pid=83 We can hope so of course, but realism has to warn D:\thunderk7\utrecht>find "Koneru" a*.txt ---------- ADRES.TXT ---------- ALPH07011.TXT 5008123 Koneru, Humpy wm IND 2387 39 31-3-87 F w ---------- ALPHAOCT.TXT 5008123 Koneru, Humpy IND 2299 18 31.03.87 w ---------- ALPHJA01.TXT 5008123 Koneru, Humpy wm IND 2299 0 31.03.87 w .1b current FIDE list: Koneru, Humpy wg IND 2486 31.03.1987 F Her FIDE rating is very impressive, but i have to warn here. Computerchess is not like human chess. There are zillions of chessplayers and many are very talented. In order to reach the world top you have to beat *everyone* on this planet except the top 10 of the world. Judith Polgar is currently 2677 and #21 of the FIDE rating list. Fischer is on the rating list because he is still a member from the FIDE and alive. His rating is in no mean active, and more important than that is that he's not worth 2780 anymore. So in fact she's #20 already. To say *anyone* gets in the top 20 of the world is a very hard prediction. Every talented person who has good trainers and who is talented can get 2400+. Above 2500 it is getting real hard. Getting 2600 for most is already impossible because it means you must beat people from 2600, or at least draw them. They're top 100 of the world. After that you get against real well prepared players. So after improving again, a player has to improve again to get over 2600. To get in top 50 of world you have to play real brilliant, so you have to improve again. Simply physical training won't help you to improve yourself from spot 100 to spot 50 in the world. Remember, if you are 2650, you have to beat all the talented fulltime professionals below you. current FIDE list: Koneru, Humpy wg IND 2486 31.03.1987 F 2486 at age = 15 is very impressive, but in order to get in the world top she has to improve each month and each year. Conditions for girls are usually worse than for boys here. Joining girls events is not exactly a good way to get better, though national pressure on her to play for zillions of team events for her country will be major. Then she needs to have the luck to have good trainers, who not only are strong themselves (don't need to be world top GMs by the way) but especially have TIME to train her. Just getting yourself from 2487 to 2675+ is not exactly something you can do yourself, though some western world top players managed (Loek van Wely for example). Then even if you manage to get that high in the top, one thing is hard to get used to, which also happens in computerchess at the top: you only play prepared opponents. Opponents who fulltime have prepared for you. Even though it's just statistics, statistics lie a lot. Rating at the world top is not like rating at my level. If i have a good day i beat a small GM or an IM. If you are 2650+ you are supposed to have never a bad day when you play against other GMs. 2486 at 15 means incredible talent, but don't forget that training programs go till much higher ratings nowadays. Like 10 years ago there were no training programs at all. I entered rating list at 15 at 1967 and i had done it all myself. Nowadays kids get trained to start younger but in fact after training they start at 2200. So the jump from 2200 to 2486 is 'only' 286 points. 150 points of that are tactical. If talented players which get 'produced' by nowadays improved trainings go work, they sometimes drop over 100 points from the rating list. That won't happen in this case, but the competition is much bigger now than it was a few years ago. Betting to get 2600+ is something different from betting to get top 10 of the world. Please do not forget that the rating jump from 2500 to 2600 is not a 'simple one'. It's way easier for me to get from 2300+ to 2400+, by trying to not blunder and to pick which days i play for fide rating, than it is to beat professional players. Especially above 2550 it gets real hard. Remember 2600 is world top 100 of the world. No surprises happen in these games usually. Every line is prepared by the opponent. In 2002 blunders are getting made less and less. A few games you lose when you are young anyway to strategical better play of opponents. Some who play certain lines for 20 years already. Nothing is easy above 2300 in fact. Last talented youth players i played against who were 2300+ i all lost, based upon tactics in most games. I blundered somewhere. I wasn't outplayed. I blundered. In fact that was a free point to my opponents. They could use it better than i could anyway. No such points for Koneru. Beating the grandmaster-computers is a lot harder than the random things that happen in computerchess, where both sides do not blunder and both engines knowing shit from openings preparements. 1 Kasparov, Garry g RUS 2838 13.04.1963 M n 2 Kramnik, Vladimir g RUS 2809 25.06.1975 M n 3 Fischer, Robert J g USA 2780 M i 4 Anand, Viswanathan g IND 2752 11.12.1969 M 5 Topalov, Veselin g BUL 2745 15.03.1975 M 6 Adams, Michael g ENG 2744 17.11.1971 M 7 Ponomariov, Ruslan g UKR 2743 11.10.1983 M 8 Bareev, Evgeny g RUS 2724 21.11.1966 M n 9 Morozevich, Alexander g RUS 2718 18.07.1977 M n 10 Kamsky, Gata g USA 2717 02.06.1974 M i 11 Ivanchuk, Vassily g UKR 2711 18.03.1969 M 12 Gelfand, Boris g ISR 2710 24.06.1968 M 13 Leko, Peter g HUN 2707 08.09.1979 M 14 Shirov, Alexei g ESP 2704 04.07.1972 M 15 Grischuk, Alexander g RUS 2702 31.10.1983 M n 16 Khalifman, Alexander g RUS 2698 18.01.1966 M n 17 Karpov, Anatoly g RUS 2690 23.05.1951 M n 18 Svidler, Peter g RUS 2688 17.06.1976 M n 19 Smirin, Ilia g ISR 2685 21.01.1968 M 20 Akopian, Vladimir g ARM 2678 07.12.1971 M 21 Polgar, Judit (GM) wg HUN 2677 23.07.1976 F 22 Dreev, Alexey g RUS 2677 30.01.1969 M n 23 Azmaiparashvili, Zurab g GEO 2676 16.03.1960 M 24 Ye, Jiangchuan g CHN 2676 20.11.1960 M
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