Author: Robert Henry Durrett
Date: 16:18:42 05/26/02
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On May 20, 2002 at 15:56:10, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote: >On May 20, 2002 at 15:33:01, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On May 20, 2002 at 15:30:08, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On May 20, 2002 at 12:44:53, Martin Andersen wrote: >>> >>>>On May 20, 2002 at 04:52:00, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>I guess that Lambchop comes back as freeware because it is not strong enough and >>>>>is slightly weaker than Crafty based on peter's opinion. >>>>> >>>>>About yace I do not know the reason that Dieter did not choose to do it >>>>>commercial. >>>>> >>>>>I hope that at least he is not going to give for free a version that is clearly >>>>>better than the latest yace. >>>> >>>>Why not ? I don't mind having a strong program for free. >>>>It's up to the author. Nobody can tell him to charge for >>>>the program. >>>>It could affect the sale of the commercial programs, but >>>>competition is healthy. Actually, if strength and price alone decided >>>>which program normal people would use, then 99% would >>>>choose Crafty or Yace for example. These 99% would get >>>>their asses kicked by these programs. >>> >>>You assume that the buyers use programs to play against them. >>> >>>It is a mistake and there are buyers who use programs for other purposes(for >>>example to play engine-engine games). >>> >>>Uri >> >>You can say that these buyers may buy engines even if they are weaker than the >>best free programs but buyers who use program for analysis of their >>correspondence games may want the best program and if there is something free >>and better they may not buy a new chess program. > >Ironically, I do not think that commercial programs target that audience. >I do not think that the programmers optimize the engines for analysis. >Otherwise, they should pay more attention to things like endgames etc. >Sometimes they do not it because they do not consider that increases the elo too >much. I guess it's necessary to try to see this from the point of view of the person or company who is marketing their software. If they are in business to make money, they will likely do market assessments and target the markets which they believe will give them the greatest return on their investment. Although I, personally, use chess engines exclusively for what I call "analysis," it's not clear that I represent the most lucrative market. Maybe not. The problem seems to be to correctly "profile" the average target user. If the provider sees the target user as someone who plays chess against his/her computers, then they will try to provide whatever such people want. That may not be best for other users. It would be nice if correspondence chess would get more attention. But computer must be able to work for many hours [overnight] and optimizing the engines for that application may not give enough return on investment. But someone who was not trying to get rich, . . . Bob > >Regards, >Miguel > > >> >>Uri
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