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Subject: Re: AMD 1.73Ghz vs Intel P4 2.53Ghz -=- The winner is...........

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 05:05:09 05/27/02

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On May 27, 2002 at 08:02:29, Slater Wold wrote:

>On May 27, 2002 at 07:47:13, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On May 27, 2002 at 06:37:49, Slater Wold wrote:
>>
>>>On May 27, 2002 at 06:23:38, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>If only looking at the speed of the chess programs [not much difference] and
>>>>considering the price between AMD 1.73 GHz and P4 2.53 GHz [much difference],
>>>>the decision of what to buy should still be an easy one: AMD and by the way,
>>>>such comparisons [oranges with apples] do not count for me. Finally, I think it
>>>>is just a matter of taste which CPU to prefer.
>>>>Kurt
>>>
>>>This wasn't testing price.  It wasn't testing value.  It wasn't testing users
>>>taste.
>>>
>>>It was testing one thing:  speed.
>>>
>>>And say all you want, Intel has the fastest CPU available.
>>
>>please wait with that conclusion before you have a K7 optimized
>>executable. Obviously that requires gcc 3.1,
>>but even the msvc compiled executable (which is already way faster
>>than the intel one) is going to kick butt here i guess, despite
>>that it has no K7 optimizations and no branch prediction reordering
>>pass (already only the branch prediction reordering is like 12.5%
>>extra speedup for DIEP, even if it's less for crafty, DO THE MATH).
>
>You're not going to get a faster EXE than the Intel 5.0 one.  It makes the
>fastest Crafty EXE known to man.
>
>And just to recap:
>
>AMD 1.73Ghz using optimized Intel 5.0 compiler:  940k nps
>
>P4 2.53Ghz using the EXE off Hyatt's FTP site:  965k nps

No this is an INTEL compiler.

please don't say that intel is fast on K7.
it is fucking slow on K7.

I need to quote some postings i did here a few weeks ago.
Did you miss them?

the wcrafty-18.15.exe version which is on the ftp site from bob
is intel c++ 6.0 by the way. it has bugs in P4 optimizations which
possibly could cause a slower executable than the intel compiler 6.0
compiler without -G7 (which is P4 optimization) which is used for
wcrafty-18.15.exe, which is slower than alternatives.





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