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Subject: Re: Can you test Hiarcs 8 on P IV 2.53 vs H8 on the AMD 1.73 Ghz ?

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 05:07:44 05/27/02

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On May 27, 2002 at 08:00:35, Slater Wold wrote:

INTEL on an AMD processor. Please let me quote the official
explanation from INTEL C++ team:

 "We did of course not test on the K7 processor, so whether
  it is slower or faster on the K7 processor than on the intel
  processor we do not know".

I'll throw you an exe. Take into account that the linux equivalent
is another 5% to 12.5% faster than that one is for the K7.

Bob isn't awake yet. he'll get soon.

Crafty as usual has an error when compiling under intel.

Your first posting here said you used the default compile from bob.
how the HELL can you compile for intel 5.0 if the default 1815 source
doesn't compile at all here?

>Like I said Vince, throw me any EXE you want, and I guarantee the plain 'ol exe
>off Hyatt's site will beat any Crafty EXE you can give.
>
>I used the beloved Intel 5.0 to build an exe for the AMD, and it was still
>slower.  And everyone knows, you CANNOT get a faster exe than that.
>
>On May 27, 2002 at 07:43:31, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On May 27, 2002 at 07:19:34, Slater Wold wrote:
>>
>>>On May 27, 2002 at 07:07:21, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>If you auto test then in a short match of 20 games it could go either way, since
>>>>for chess, the speed difference is NOT noticeable.
>>>>
>>>>Jorge.
>>>
>>>Chess is not all I do.  Nor is it all anyone does on their PC.
>>
>>>100% (literally) better graphics than the AMD, using the same video card.
>>
>>bandwidth is bigger on P4 sure.
>>
>>>30% faster encoding video.  15% faster encoding MP3's.
>>
>>same as above. this is all bandwidth limited.
>>
>>>These are *not* marginal victories.  These are HUGE gains.
>>>
>>>I said in my original post, that I was interested in chess performance, but
>>>let's be honest here for a second, most people who have a PC don't have a chess
>>>program installed.
>>>
>>>Bottom line:  Whatever you do with your Intel P4 2.53Ghz machine, it will be
>>>faster than my AMD 1.73Ghz machine.  If that's by 10% or 100%, it's going to be
>>>faster.
>>
>>Not at all. Note that gcc also works under windows (they say),
>>but the important thing is that there are at least 2 compilers for
>>windows from which 1 is a very important compiler the visual c++ compiler,
>>which is way faster for the K7 than intel is.
>>
>>You got fooled again by the intel compiler.
>>
>>Please look at specint and you'll see that most tests they use intel c++
>>compiled executables.
>>
>>It's sick.



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