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Subject: absolute rofl

Author: Aaron Gordon

Date: 05:49:48 05/27/02

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Thats about a heap of crap. Plain and simple. 139fps for the Athlon 1.73? It is
extremely obvious you did absolutely nothing increase memory performance on that
box. Did you even load the via 4in1 drivers? My "junk" Thunderbird 800 @ 850
pulled more fps than that in Q3 using normal SDRAM and a Geforce2 MX. I think it
even pulled more fps than that with an old Voodoo3 even. Also, why not compare
crafty using my 18.14 AMD & P4 binaries? Both are fully profiled for the cpu in
question.

Here are some older screenshots I took way back when I had my Tbird and Abit
KT7a.. all tests were done in low detail with sound off to test only
bus/memory/cpu.

Thunderbird 1GHz @ 600MHz, 100MHz bus, 100MHz SDRAM, Geforce2 Ultra
1260 frames in 5.6 seconds - 241.5 fps
ftp://speedycpu.dyndns.org/pub/overclockstuff/pics/fasttbird.jpg

Thunderbird 1GHz @ 883MHz, 160MHz bus, 160MHz SDRAM, Geforce2 Ultra
1260 frames in 3.2 seconds - 390.5 fps
ftp://speedycpu.dyndns.org/pub/overclockstuff/pics/fasttbird3.jpg

Thunderbird 1GHz @ 1653MHz, 157MHz bus, 157MHz SDRAM, Geforce2 Ultra
1260 frames in 2.6 seconds - 480.0 fps
ftp://speedycpu.dyndns.org/pub/overclockstuff/pics/fasttbird4.jpg

Remember, this is my OLD box with SDRAM, 1GHz AMD Thunderbird and a Geforce2
Ultra. My box pulls over 600 fps easily with those settings and around 400 fps
with the standard 800x600 32bit settings with my Geforce3 (@ 270/600). In crafty
my box at 1.86Ghz gets about 1.2 Million nps with my CraftyK7 18.11. That
P4-2.53 has a LONG way to go. Also, if you're having ANY doubts about any of
this come up to Grand Prairie and test it for yourself. Like I said before..
You're always welcome to come up & lan, benchmark, etc. I still have that Tbird
1GHz, Abit KT7a (SDR) w/ Gf2 Ultra.. currently running air-cooled at 1.5ghz at
the moment. You're welcome to play around on that machine as well.

It's a shame I don't have the money to upgrade this box I have now.. The box I
could build has the potential of being %30-50 (perhaps more) faster than what I
have now. Specs: AMD Thoroughbred @ 2.2Ghz with cascaded freon compressors,
single 512mb PC3200 DIMM @ 230fsb (460DDR, also with two 172 watt liquid cooled
peltiers) on an Epox 8K3A with the Epoxs' chipset cooled also with an 86watt
peltier. A SUMA (3.3ns ram) Geforce4 Ti4200 oced to 350MHz core / 750MHz memory
(again, cooled with two 172 watt peltiers). All the peltiers will be cooled with
copper maze blocks from dangerden, use arctic silver 3 compound and run off an
800GPH pump with 1 inch tubing splitting off into 3/8" tubes for the individual
waterblocks. A dangerden Supercube copper radiator to dump the heat from the
water. The power supply that will be used to power the peltiers is custom built
(will provide pictures if requested, it's an interesting heap) DC psu (variable
from 1 to 50V) from some friends at Devry. As crazy as this may sound it is
completely doable and will fit inside a full tower case minus freon compressors
which will be in a seprate section below the tower (similar to Kryotech's setup
but not as pretty). Yes, it will require massive ammounts of power but it will
be ridiculously fast (and not to mention cost LESS than $3,000).

It appears that the crude benchmarking you have done only mentally justifies the
$3,000+ you spent on that box. You are only kidding yourself...



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