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Subject: Re: A long time ago, in a CCC far far, away ... There were *HARDWARE WARS*

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 07:05:33 05/28/02

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On May 28, 2002 at 08:26:16, Aaron Gordon wrote:

>Slate. I was only 'hostile' due to poor testing methods. When you start
>comparing things that aren't comparable (for example, P4-SSE2 FPU vs AthlonXP
>straight fpu, no SSE/3DNow) then you are providing deceiving results. Would it
>be fair for me to compare a K6-2/300MHz's FPU using 3DNow! to a Pentium3 500 w/o
>SSE? For you.. maybe. I would never do such a thing however. It misleads people
>who don't know any better and is downright bad testing. The same goes for
>Quake3. You and I both know a Tbird 800MHz on a good board providing proper
>memory bandwidth can get more fps than 139. The same thing goes for
>encoding/decoding. Without a good motherboard the CPU or anything else can't do
>much good unless the benchmark/test is 100% cpu biased. Encoding/decoding gets a
>nice boost from faster memory. Whats bad about it is the 'good' boards I am
>talking about are only $80-100. Why not grab one and retest? I can call you and
>tell how what to setup in the bios, which via 4in1's to use, which detonator
>drivers to use & etc. Then you will see a monster come alive..

#1.) I am using the best dual board out there.  The Asus AMD Dual board.  There
is NOT a better motherboard (for duals).  Period.  (In the BIOS, I have the
ability to disable 1 CPU, which I did for these tests.)

#2.) I am using some of the best memory money can buy.  Samsung PC2100
registered sticks.

#3.) I was using ALL the updated drivers for EVERYTHING.  From the chipset to
the damn USB driver.  I spent almost 3 hours alone downloading all the newest
drivers for both computers.

#4.) The BIOS settings on the AMD are just as you have described.


The settings in this test were PERFECT Aaron.  I am not asking you to believe
me, but I am telling you, IT IS SO.  I made sure MYSELF.

Go to Tom's Hardware, or Anand, and compare my Sandra results to theirs for an
AMD 1.73Ghz.  Mine are actually faster.  Come on man, I am not an idiot.  These
systems were setup fine.  The 139 fps for the AMD surprised me too, it's a shame
the GF4 wouldn't work in the P4, I get a 2x+ result with it using the AMD.  But
XP didn't want anything to do with it, so I was forced to use the GF1.



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