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Subject: Re: HLCC - 3 || Fritz 7 vs Hiarcs 8 || Game -2 (PGN) ||

Author: pavel

Date: 08:27:03 05/28/02

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>>
>>===============================================================================
>>[Event "HLCC-3"]
>>[Site "home"]
>>[Date "2002.05.27"]
>>[Round "2.1"]
>>[White "Fritz 7"]
>>[Black "Hiarcs 8"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>[ECO "D30"]
>>[WhiteElo "2500"]
>>[BlackElo "2500"]
>>[PlyCount "101"]
>>[EventDate "2002.05.25"]
>>[Source "Mahamood"]
>>
>>1. d4 {0} 1... d5 {0} 2. Nf3 {0} 2... Nf6 {0} 3. Bg5 {0} 3... e6 {0} 4. c4 {0}
>>4... h6 {0} 5. Bxf6 {0} 5... Qxf6 {0} 6. e3 {0} 6... Nc6 {0.30/13 2167} 7. Nc3
>>{0.38/16 1723} 7... Bb4 {0.38/14 2116} 8. Qb3 {0.38/15 1092} 8... dxc4 {0} 9.
>>Bxc4 {0} 9... O-O {0} 10. O-O {0} 10... Bd6 {0} 11. Ne4 {0} 11... Qe7 {0} 12.
>>Qc3 {0} 12... Bd7 {0.51/13 1089} 13. Rfd1 {0.50/16 2436} 13... Bb4 {
>>(Rfe8) 0.48/13 1212} 14. Qc2 {0.59/16 920} 14... f5 {(Bd6) 0.55/13 862} 15. Ng3
>>{0.63/15 1015} 15... Kh8 {0.54/13 1192} 16. Ne2 {(e4) 0.69/15 1083} 16... g5 {
>>(Bd6) 0.35/13 1152} 17. Ne5 {(Nc3) 0.69/15 1525} 17... Nxe5 {0.23/13 830} 18.
>>dxe5 {0.72/14 197} 18... c5 {(Rad8) 0.23/13 1079} 19. Nc3 {0.59/15 1359} 19...
>>Rad8 {(Rfd8) 0.19/13 1378} 20. Qb3 {0.47/15 1026} 20... Bxc3 {
>>(Bc6) 0.21/14 2066} 21. Qxc3 {(bxc3) 0.56/16 230} 21... b5 {0.17/14 843} 22.
>>Be2 {(Bb3) 0.50/17 1073} 22... b4 {0.24/14 1130} 23. Qc2 {(Qc4) 0.53/16 673}
>>23... Bc6 {0.27/13 731} 24. Rac1 {(Rdc1) 0.53/15 1031} 24... Rxd1+ {0.25/13 845
>>} 25. Rxd1 {0.53/15 169} 25... Bd5 {0.25/13 817} 26. f3 {0.44/16 1259} 26...
>>Qc7 {(c4) 0.19/12 1099} 27. e4 {(b3) 0.88/17 759} 27... fxe4 {0.55/14 1130} 28.
>>fxe4 {0.78/17 587} 28... Bxa2 {0.55/13 489} 29. b3 {(Qa4) 0.88/18 884} 29...
>>Bxb3 {0.32/14 918} 30. Qxb3 {0.78/16 377} 30... Qxe5 {0.15/14 669} 31. Qc4 {
>>(Qh3) 0.66/15 498} 31... Kg7 {(Rb8) 0.26/12 845} 32. Bg4 {(g3) 1.06/16 1457}
>>32... Rf4 {(Rf6) 0.00/12 508} 33. Qb5 {(Rd7+) 1.34/15 703} 33... Qxe4 {
>>0.10/12 789} 34. Bh5 {1.25/15 654} 34... Qe3+ {(Rf8) 0.10/12 575} 35. Kh1 {
>>0.91/9 3} 35... Rd4 {0.13/12 556} 36. Qb7+ {(Ra1) 1.66/13 247} 36... Kf6 {
>>0.00/11 160} 37. Qf7+ {(Rf1+) 1.69/13 356} 37... Ke5 {0.00/6 0} 38. Qc7+ {
>>1.66/12 264} 38... Kd5 {0.00/12 399} 39. Rg1 {(Qb7+) 1.75/13 370} 39... g4 {
>>0.00/12 519} 40. Qxa7 {1.88/13 724}
>
>
>This is what happes when a knowledge based program like Fritz meets a search
>based program like Hiarcs.
>
>You can see that the searched based program knows nothing about the position and
>evaluates it as 0.00 at moves 36-39 when the knowledge based program see small
>improvements in the score 1.66 at move 38, 1.75 at move 39 1.88 at move 40 and
>the small improvement continues in the next moves.
>
>
> 40... Re4 {(Rf4) 0.33/11 752} 41. Be8 {
>>2.00/13 492} 41... g3 {(Qf2) 1.49/12 2979}
>
>Hiarcs found a fail low of more than 1 pawn when Fritz only continues it's small
>score improvements.
>
> 42. hxg3 {2.22/12 204} 42... Rg4 {
>>1.57/11 495} 43. Rd1+ {2.78/13 650} 43... Rd4 {4.88/13 3153}
>
>Here Hiarcs found a big fail low when Fritz need some more plies.
>
> 44. Rf1 {
>>3.22/13 409} 44... h5 {5.09/10 332} 45. Qb7+ {(Qd7+) 3.97/12 278} 45... Ke5 {
>>6.03/12 1480} 46. Qc7+ {2.59/7 389}
>
>only 7 plies in 389 seconds?
>
>It seems that something was broken in the hardware of Fritz(it could calculate
>12 plies in the previous move in less time) but it does not help Hiarcs.
>
>Uri

IMO it is a problem with chessbase (engine or GUI), I was watching the game
while it happened. This is not the first time I have seen it happening. it also
happened inthe first game and i have seen it happen with shredder6 too.

Sometime the engine doesnt use the processor et all and it has like 2-3kns spee,
I checked (everytime it happened) to see if the the processor is busy for othe
reasons, but it wasnt. It was just either idle or the engine it using only 2-3%
of the processor.


not that it matters the outcome ofthe game in this case, but this is not the
first time it happened.

pavs



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